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Welcome to the Scientific American podcast, Science Talk, posted on October 29, 2013.

I'm Steve Murski. On this episode, I mean, I think an important point here is to define

pervert and what we mean when we use that term. It's a very loaded term now. And that is

scientist and author Jesse Bering. He's a psychologist and the former director of the Institute of

Cognition and Culture at Queen's University Belfast. He now lives in rights in Ithaca in upstate New York,

where he produced his latest work,

Perv, the sexual deviant in all of us.

As I said, the last time Jesse was on the podcast,

the discussion that follows is at times Frank and, let's call it earthy.

So if you have sensitive sensibilities, just turn back now.

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