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Perspectives on Executive Pay

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🗓️ 6 March 2007

⏱️ 10 minutes

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Cato Daily Podcast for Tuesday, March 6th. I'm Anastasia Yuglova, your host.

0:05.0

For yesterday's episode, senior fellow Jagadiche Gokley explained his position on executive pay,

0:11.0

arguing that how much CEOs take home is nobody's business but the shareholders.

0:16.4

Today, managing editor of Regulation magazine Tom Fiery adds his own two cents to the debate

0:21.4

over how much executives should be paid by the firms they lead.

0:26.1

Scholars Jagadish Gokley and Jerry Taylor recently wrote an op-ed in the Wall Street Journal arguing

0:30.9

that CEO pay need not be capped.

0:33.0

Do you have anything to add to that argument?

0:35.0

Well, I have some disagreements with it, and I'm uncomfortable with that because, first of all,

0:41.0

I'm a huge fan of Jogadish's work and I challenge him with great

0:44.7

reputation and I'm a fan of Jerry's work and challenge him as well but I want to pick a couple

0:49.6

quibbles with things that they said the first thing they argued is that we should pay

0:53.8

CEOs more than we do now and that that would somehow be better for workers.

0:57.7

I think they're incorrect with that. The second is they claim that there's no public

1:01.8

policy issue with CEO pay and I think they're wrong with that too.

1:05.8

But the reason I think they're wrong in both of those is going to be different than what most people out there talking about social justice, why they argue that it's wrong.

1:13.4

I want to submit that CEO pay is absolutely no different than pay for any other worker

1:18.3

anywhere else on the wage scale.

1:20.4

So from the guy at the lowest level, the guy in the middle level, the low level managers all the way up,

1:25.0

they are paid in accordance with what other people with the same skills would be willing to take.

1:30.0

It's all competition at various skill levels, plus there might be some sort

1:34.8

of a premium put on top of that to encourage good behavior, kind of an anti-shirking

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