Welcome to Mortification of Spin, a casual conversation about things that count.

With Carl Truman, Todd Pruitt, and Amy Bird, Mortification of Spin is a weekly podcast from the Alliance of Confessing Evangelicals.

Let's join this week's conversation. Greetings and welcome to Mortification of Spin. My name's Carl Truman. I'm Professor at Grove City

College in Western Pennsylvania. And I'm here with my usual co-hosts, Amy Bird, the housewife theologian, and Todd

Pruitt. Todd arrived slightly late this morning because either he didn't read his email or Amy

had written the travel instructions in too directive a way. It seemed that email seemed a little

authoritative. Influencing. It seemed too authoritative.

Yeah.

But anyway, we are here to discuss something that I was only made aware of a couple of weeks ago.

Todd emailed me and said, should we discuss the Enneagram?

To which my response was, why would we want to discuss an ancient Sumerian epic poem?

But I believe that the enneagram is not an ancient Sumerian epic poem,

but is rather the latest hot thing in the PCA for deciding who should get ordained and who should not.

Is that correct, Todd?

That's exactly what

it is. It is constitutional now. It's in the book of church order for the PCA. No, the enneagram

is kind of the hottest new thing for personality typing. You know, it almost makes Myers-Briggs

passe, if you can imagine such a thing.

The Enneagram, I mean, there's some debate as to how old it is.

Some say it's ancient, and some say, oh, well, it's not so ancient.

I think what everybody agrees upon is that it goes back, at least in terms of its emergence in the

modern West, to some rather shady characters, this one fellow, Carl, who I think you're

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