I knew this is where comedy was.

Gonna Carson changed my life twice.

It was just like a dream. It was just like everything I had worked for

and dreamed about has come to fruition.

They said Johnny fell over laughing.

It makes me so happy.

I made him laugh.

But with Johnny, you knew you had a kid audience that you could really go crazy.

My wife at the curtain all held real groups backstage.

People were running up and he said, go back out, go back out, go back out.

Johnny wants you back.

I walked back to the curtain very calm and Johnny Johnny I took about and Johnny put that little circle up at the finger and I I am Mark Malkoff. Thank you to Jeff Myers, Jonathan Dowdle, and Andrew Mazeloff for their recent financial

support on the Carson Podcast. Please consider supporting us on Patreon by going to Carson Podcast.com and hitting the

Patreon link. This week our guest is Perry Macy who is a commercial

producer on the tonight show starring Johnny Carson in New York.

We got together at his home in Los Angeles, California.

Enjoy. boy. Perry Massey, thank you so much for talking with us.

You're welcome.

Nice to talk with you.

It's a pleasure. I'm really excited.

When did you first get to NBC in January of 1950 I had just actually I went

back in June for my formal graduation, but I had finished Emerson College. And I came to New York

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