Hey buddy! Oh! Why hello Hannah Gelpe! Do you want to hear a list of things that I do not like to do? What? I do not like to look at spiders. Oh! Um, eat limo beans. Oh. I don't think I've ever had a limo bean. You know they're weird. Oh. Chawke? Are they slant? They're chawke?

I would say they are chawke. A chawke bean? If anybody just feeds me on this, we can fight outside. Oh my god! My kids are hella chawke. What about Okra? You like Okra? That's kind of slimy. I love Okra! I don't know. I love it. It's like it's a perfect shape, texture and consistency to pretend that you're eating bugs in the Okuruma Matata sauce. Oh god!

This episode is our final episode on Perfectionism! Yay! Thank god! Wow! It's hard so much! Why was it the worst? It was the worst. It wasn't the worst. It was kind of the worst. Let me tell you, I am even more of a perfectionist than I thought. Wow. Which kind of blows. Yeah. Like I just saw it cropping up all day.

And just all kinds of situations. Small situations. Big situations. You'd be like, oh dang! I'm doing that perfectionistic thinking behavior rule, thinking behavior. That pattern. Right? Here's my crazy rule. Here's my behavior that goes along with trying to get to that rule. Yeah. So you just start to be able to tag it around. I guess so that's good. It's good to see it and be aware of it.

It's still hard to change the change it though. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. But you know, ear buds, I don't know if you've noticed, but we did not enjoy doing the perfectionistic thinking. And then we kind of pretended that it never happened. Yeah. And then we just took a break from it because we had all these other ideas and things we wanted to do. And now we are concluding Perfectionism. Right? Bye. We're just mainly recapping over it. I for one would be happy to never

try and be perfect again because of how much I've hated deep diving into perfectionism. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, that's my perfectionism. And guess what? Dealing with that is annoying. So I am not going to do that behavior because I don't want to have to be like, wow, perfectionism. Huh? Crazy. Right? Dude, that's a really good point. You know, I think it's just so linked to my shame. And I feel like I feel shame so much of the time. So I really have to

redo that after like rewire, which is just going to be so hard, but better than the alternative, which is to feel shame all the time, which is really the worst way to feel. Oh yeah. No, don't like that. No, no, no, no. Thank you. I've realized that my perfectionism is rooted in fear, which sucks. You know, that's not as stupid. Why is it so hard to feel live? I don't know. But now I know that it's usually the perfectionistic thinking that

is generating the feeling of fear or stepping from the feeling of fear and generating the feeling of fear. And so all I can do is kind of interrupt that process. Do you have any tools you've been using to combat your perfectionism? Oh, well, there's tools I've been thinking of using. Yeah. Like meditation. I just read this great thing from the Dan Harris app about the inner critic and how like your inner critic never really goes away, but with meditation and being mindful, you hear it. And then you can kind of be like,

that there it is. It's kind of like your that's what you don't like. I like all my uncles. If any of my uncles are listening, by the way, just to pick a family member or a random.

You're uncle that you don't like. You can just be like, bro, I don't listen to you anyway. So nothing you know, I don't, you just like put it to decide. Yeah, the one true meditation app, the headspace.

And that app they call it noting and you brush it with a feather. Oh, you note this meditation style. I love. And this you can kind of start to do in your waking life as well is noting when something crops up.

And just instead of going towards the thought, just acknowledging it and kind of brushing it away. You know, I love that imagery with the feather.

Mm-hmm. That's because that's how gently you want to be. It's like, it's like a feather on glass or like a feather against a crystal like just like brush it away.

For me, like in terms of perfectionistic thinking, like, oh, no, I'm not going to open this email or read this feedback because it's going to just tell me how terribly terrible a job I've done.

I'm like, I can brush that thought without being like, man, why is it that I do such a terrible job?

Like instead of going towards the thought, I can just be like, there's that thought not surprised it's here. Brush it away. Keep moving forward. Oh, yeah. Or like you can kind of pretend like you're like a side scrawler.

Mm-hmm. Swipe and you're sort of like bouncing on each like little like, yeah, yeah, like a like a platformer. Yeah.

And then like you can pretend that each thought is like a cloud. And so you like kind of hop from one cloud, one foot to the next. And then each time the cloud like goes down a teeny bit.

Yeah, back up. And then you're like, cling and then well then one time like occasionally the clouds going to be a blue cloud. And you just let that go.

You know, and you just keep moving along. You're just like, there it is. It's not like yeah, I did like, oh my god. There's the blue cloud. I have to jump on it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, no, I think that really works. So that's a good thing. That's like kind of stemmed. That's kind of started from this, you know.

And also, I think I feel a lot less like crazy because it's just so apparent that everybody including people who are famous and I admire.

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