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Hello. Surprise.

Bet you didn't expect to see me in your podcast feed.

This is my Christmas present to you, an extra episode, a conversation that I had with Alicia Ilyan on perfection.

Every December since I've started the show, I have released a sort of episode, a bonus episode during my

break that I take from publishing in December and January. And that's what I'm doing here.

That's why you're hearing a podcast episode right now. Alicia wrote a book on perfection,

but I also thought this was the perfect topic for us heading into a new year because the new year is traditionally the time when everyone

decides this new person they want to be, new goals they want to set, they re-envision their

life and reimagine what their, youagine what their diet's going to be and

how they're going to live and their schedule. And we've all got goals. We've all got things we want to do

better, want to change in the new year. And it's very easy to slip into the belief that if we just

changed enough things and if we just did things a little bit better,

maybe we could just be a little more perfect, right?

I know we've all fallen into that.

I certainly have it's a temptation every year because that's what we're sold by commercialism

and, you know, our social media feeds tell us if we just wake up earlier

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