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The Art of Charm

Perception Beats Perfection | Laura Huang

The Art of Charm

http://www.TheArtOfCharm.com

Education, Business, Health & Fitness

4.711K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2025

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Summary

Why do some people stand out and get ahead—even when they’re not the most qualified? In this episode, AJ and Johnny sit down with Harvard professor and author Laura Huang to unpack the hidden force she calls “edge”—and how anyone can create it. Laura shares how to turn bias into opportunity, why adversity can actually be an advantage, and what successful people do differently when it comes to perception and presence. With insights from years of research and personal experience, she reveals how to sharpen your signals, own your story, and make others believe in your value before you even speak. If you’ve ever felt overlooked or underestimated, this episode gives you the roadmap to flip the script. What to Listen For [00:00:00] What is “edge” and why it matters more than credentials [00:02:45] How Laura’s own story shaped her research [00:05:29] The real difference between hustle and strategic effort [00:08:17] Why perceptions matter more than you think [00:11:06] How to reframe bias as a tool, not a limitation [00:14:22] Turning stereotypes into signals of strength [00:17:38] What successful people do to make others believe in them [00:21:05] The four components of creating your edge [00:24:46] Laura’s advice for standing out in competitive environments [00:27:12] How to own your narrative and signal confidence A Word From Our Sponsors Tired of awkward handshakes and collecting business cards without building real connections? Dive into our Free Social Capital Networking Masterclass. Learn practical strategies to make your interactions meaningful and boost your confidence in any social situation. Sign up for free at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theartofcharm.com/sc⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and elevate your networking from awkward to awesome. Don’t miss out on a network of opportunities! Unleash the power of covert networking to infiltrate high-value circles and build a 7-figure network in just 90 days. Ready to start? Check out our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠CIA-proven guide⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ to networking like a spy! Indulge in affordable luxury with Quince—where high-end essentials meet unbeatable prices. Upgrade your wardrobe today at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠quince.com/charm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for free shipping and hassle-free returns. Ready to turn your business idea into reality? Shopify makes it easy to start, scale, and succeed—whether you're launching a side hustle or building the next big brand. Sign up for your $1/month trial at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠shopify.com/charm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Need to hire top talent—fast? Skip the waiting game and get more qualified applicants with Indeed. Claim your $75 Sponsored Job Credit now at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Indeed.com/charm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. This year, skip breaking a sweat AND breaking the bank. Get your summer savings and shop premium wireless plans at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠mintmobile.com/charm⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Stop needlessly overpaying for car insurance. Before you renew your policy, do yourself a favor—download the Jerry app or head to JERRY.com/charm Connect with quality therapists and mental health experts who specialize in you at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.rula.com/charm ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Curious about your influence level?  Get your Influence Index Score today! Take this 60-second quiz to find out how your influence stacks up against top performers at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠theartofcharm.com/influence⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠. Episode resources: Laura Huang's Website EDGE Check in with AJ and Johnny! ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AJ on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johnny on LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AJ on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Johnny on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Art of Charm on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Art of Charm on YouTube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Art of Charm on TikTok Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

You know, some people think OCD is just about keeping your house super clean?

0:03.6

That stereotype drives me crazy. Real OCD creates these unwanted intrusive thoughts about

0:09.6

stuff you actually care about, like your social life. Exactly. It makes you doubt whether

0:14.2

people actually like you or you're terrified. You accidentally offended someone. You spend

0:18.6

hours replaying conversations looking for proof you're not a

0:22.0

terrible person. And those thoughts get so overwhelming. You start doing all these behaviors to make

0:26.7

them stop, like mentally reviewing every interaction or trying to cancel negative thoughts with

0:31.4

positive ones before you see friends. But here's the thing. The doubts and fears just come back

0:36.7

even stronger. It isolates you from the

0:38.9

connections that make life worth living. That's where NOCD comes in. They're the world's leading

0:43.9

provider of OCD treatment and all of their therapists specialize in ERP therapy. That's exposure

0:49.7

and response prevention. Not regular talk therapy, which actually makes OCD worse. NOCD does live face-to-face

0:57.6

virtual sessions, where they teach you proven techniques to manage intrusive thoughts and reclaim your

1:02.8

confidence. It's 100% virtual, covered by insurance for over 155 million Americans, and you get support

1:09.5

between sessions so you're not facing this alone.

1:12.8

If you think OCD might be holding you back, go to NOCD.com and book a free 15-minute call.

1:19.7

That's N-O-C-D.com.

1:22.3

We tend to think that hard work and effort comes first.

1:27.0

You put in the hard work, you'll get the rewards. You put in the hard work, you'll get the

1:28.8

rewards. You put in the hard work, you'll see the success. Actually, hard work should come last.

1:33.8

You should be thinking about how you enrich and provide value and how you delight and how you

1:38.1

guide. Because when you do all of those things, that's when the hard work speaks for itself

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