Hello, and welcome to the TFO Football Podcast. I'm Joe Devine, and I'm joined now by

Steps After Bloor.

Hello, Joe Devine.

Seb, it's just you and I today, isn't it?

Sure is. No Alex to am, Fred.

We had fun. Alex is still unavailable. Alex has moved a house.

There you go. He's finally moved out of his parent's house, as nearly 40 years old.

So we're all naturally supporting him in this move, and he just needed a couple of days

to learn how the kettle works and how things like the hob works. His mother was very keen

that he didn't burn the house down straight away. So, of course, he has our full support

and as much time as he needs, but he will be back for a Tuesday's podcast. So we'll

look forward to hearing all about what kind of noodle-based meals he's been trying to make

for himself, and whether he's managed to wash his clothes yet, or if he's still doing

it naked.

Anyway, today's episode is all about the Champions League. We talk about that fantastic

Juventus Porto game. We talk about PSG Barcelona too, and at one point Seb is joined by the

Marvelous Matt Slater to talk all about, well, lots of stuff, to be honest, proposed

reforms to the Champions League, the shape of what it might look like from 2024 onwards.

And some extra detail on the banning of transfers between Champions League clubs remark,

which was very interesting, and worthy of spitting, I think, spitting, whether an excitement

or disgust is up to you. So that's today's episode. And let me tell you, if you like to

spit in disgust or excitement, then you would like the athletic. If you visit theathletic.com

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