Hello and welcome to the TIFO football podcast. I'm Joe Devine and I'm joined now by Stepstafford Blore.

Hello Joe Devine.

Seb, it's just you and I today, isn't it?

Sure is. No Alex today, I'm afraid.

We had fun. Alex is still unavailable. Alex has moved a house.

There you go. He's finally moved out of his parents' house as nearly 40 years old.

So we're all naturally supporting him in this move, and he just needed a couple of days to learn how the kettle works and how things like the hob works.

His mother was very keen that he didn't burn the house down straight away.

So, of course, he has our full support and as much time as he needs. But he will be back for a Tuesday's podcast. So we'll look forward to hearing all about what kind of noodle-based

meals he's been trying to make for himself and whether he's managed to wash his clothes yet,

or if he's still doing it naked. Anyway, today's

episode is all about the Champions League. We talk about that fantastic Juventus Porto game. We talk

about PSG Barcelona too and at one point Seb is joined by the Marvelous Matt Slater

to talk all about, well, lots of stuff, to be honest, proposed

reforms to the Champions League, the shape of what it might look like from 2024 onwards,

and some extra detail on the banning of transfers between Champions League club's remark,

which was very interesting and worthy of spitting, I think, spitting whether in excitement or disgust is up to you.

So that's today's episode. And let me tell you, if you like to spit in disgust or excitement,

then you would like The Athletic. If you visit Theathletic.com forward slash Tifo,

one way or another, you'll be spitting. And for me, it's when I look at it, I'm spitting

because I'm trying to tell everyone all the things I've read on there, but I'm doing it too much

and forgetting to swallow. And so, you know, I'm salivating due to all the excitement. And every

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