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And I'm Gregor Robertson. We're with you twice a week throughout the season for all the best

reaction and analysis from some of the best football writers in the business.

Indeed and joining us today are The Times' very own, Bill Edgar and James Gerebrandt.

Coming up, we'll look ahead to the return of the

Champions League but first let's get stuck into a brilliant weekend of

Premier League action and that shock at Carrow Road. The Manchester City

boss Pep Guadiola refused to criticize any of his players despite

defensive mistakes costing the champions a shock three two defeat at Norwich.

And City looked unusually nervous at the back with Nicholas Ottomendi's mistake allowing Timu

Puke to make it three won before Citi clawed a gold back, but that was too little, too late, and it was

a first defeat of the season for Manchester City.

Now looking at their defence, this was just the sixth time in 80 games that John Stones

partners Ottomendy.

So, James, is it as simple as to say they are missing Aymeric Leport?

Yes, it's strange, isn't it, because if you remember back to the start of the 1718 season the 100 point season

Stones and Ottomendi was the you know was the starting Centimack partnership for the first half of that

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