Hello and welcome to the game football podcast from The Times and Sunday Times.

Five of the top eight Champions League places are occupied by English clubs with Manchester City's

dismal defeat against Bodo Glimp the only blemish in the latest round of Champions

League matches. What does the future hold for

Pep Guardiola and struggling stars like Roderie? And should we be worried about Cole Palmer's

World Cup place as he misses Chelsea's win against Pathos? We'll also discuss Arsenal's

continued show of strength, a much needed win for Thomas Frank. Victories for Newcastle and Liverpool,

as well as the ongoing crisis at Crystal Palace and much, much more. I'm Tom Clark and joining me today we have the Chief Correspondent for the Times and Sunday Times, Martin Samuel, the football correspondent for the Sunday Times, Jonathan Northcroft, and the former footballer-turned journalist, Gregor Robertson, is here as usual. Martin, welcome another lovely

jumper from you. Thank you very much. Johnny, Johnny on the box. Johnny on the box. Wonderful to see you in the studio, sort of. Gregor, how we doing? Pumped, ready? I'm ready. Ready to go. Let's get stuck in. Like any self-respecting journalist, we might have had five wins, but let's start with the defeat, Manchester City.

Quite a defeat, though.

Quite a defeat, absolutely.

Thank you, Gregor, for that bit.

Show of. any self-respecting journalist. We might have had five wins, but let's start with the defeat. Manchester City. It's quite a defeat, though. Quite a defeat, absolutely. Thank you, Gregor, for that show of support. Bodo Glimp 3, Manchester City won. Just wanted to quickly say, lovely goals from Bodo Glimb. We have to say, before we completely ignore them entirely and talk about Manchester City, particularly that second one, that cushioned finish on the run. You could easily have missed that. Absolutely fantastic. But Manchester City, Pepe Guardiola, a month ago, they were everyone's favourites for the title. Now all of a sudden it's chaos crisis and everyone is wondering about Pepe Guardiola's future again. Johnny, I'll start with you. What did you make of this defeat? And also because you were at the Manchester Derby at the

weekend as well, where they lost against Manchester United. What do you make of the situation

at City at the moment? Yeah, I mean, the Bodo defeat was a continuation really of what I saw

at the weekend. I mean, I didn't expect them to

lose in Norway, but I was a bit alarmed by what I saw at Old Trafford, which was a very passive

Manchester City. We could start, I'm sure we'll go through the players that are out of form,

but in general, just a sort of second gear passive team that you wouldn't have known we'll go through the players that are out of form but in general just a just a sort of second gear

passive team that you wouldn't have known

were playing in a derby that were

chasing a title

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