Hello and welcome to the Slow Home podcast. My name is Brooke McCallory. My name is Ben McCallery and

good day to you and welcome to episode six. Thank you. No problems. Today you talk to a doctor.

I do. I talk to Dr. Clinton Schultz in fact. And what's Dr. Clinton Shultz a doctor in?

He's a doctor of psychology.

But actually, the reason that I first came across Clinton and his work is through his

startup, sober.

Sober.

The best non-alcoholic craft beer in the world. I'm just going to say it.

You've tasted every single one of them. I have. I've tasted every single non-alcoholic

craft beer in the entire world. I feel like we've tasted every single non-alcoholic craft beer

in Australia. Yeah. I'm actually curious whether it isn't as big of a movement elsewhere as it is here,

because I really feel like it's gaining steam in Australia.

Well, the fact that there's so many mainstream beers now offering alcohol-free beer,

like just this week I saw that James Squire's offering a zero.

I mean, it's great.

It's good, I guess.

It just means that the good doctor is onto a good thing.

Well, he certainly is.

So, yeah, I first came across Clinton because, as you probably know, if you've listened to

this season or maybe even last, I stopped drinking alcohol

a year ago, a bit over a year ago now, and came across.

Hey, congratulations on a year.

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