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Plain English with Derek Thompson

"People Feel Lied To": The White House, the Media, and the Joe Biden Blame Game

Plain English with Derek Thompson

The Ringer

News Commentary, News

4.8 • 1.8K Ratings

🗓️ 5 July 2024

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Joe Biden's disastrous debate performance has created a crisis for the Democratic Party and a set of interlocking debates about whether the White House—or the White House media—covered up his cognitive decline. The Atlantic’s Mark Leibovich, who first wrote that Biden should drop out of the race two years ago, joins to discuss Biden campaign strategy and the hypocrisy of many Democrats who refused to state publicly what they knew privately: that Biden's age-related blunders were getting more serious. Then we are joined by the busiest man in media, Alex Thompson, political correspondent of Axios, who has absolutely dominated this story in the past week. As a group, we talk about Biden’s age, the Democratic campaign strategy—Project "Bubble Wrap"—that is blowing up in their faces, the failures of the political press and Democratic operatives to see what’s in front of their noses, and the chances that Kamala Harris will imminently replace Joe Biden as the Democratic presidential nominee. If you have questions, observations, or ideas for future episodes, email us at [email protected]. Host: Derek Thompson Guests: Mark Leibovich & Alex Thompson Producer: Devon Baroldi Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Call your banners because it's time to head back to Westeros for House of the Dragons, season

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two.

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The Ringers' Dragon Riders will soar alongside you each week with the Heron Hall size slate of

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conversations.

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The Dragon has three heads and on Sunday

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nights immediately after Hot D concludes, Chris Ryan, Joanna Robinson, and I will be

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with you for Talk the Thrones. Then on Mondays, two more shows away. Van Lath and Charles Holmes, Steve Allman and Jomia Denuron,

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aka The Midnight Boys,

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pew pewhoo, will head to the Turni Grounds to share their reactions.

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And of course, Chris Ryan and Andy Greenwald

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will sip the Arbor's finest vintage on the watch.

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Then on Tuesdays, Joanna and I will head to the bowels of a pleasure den for our house of our deep dyes.

0:41.0

Then, on Thursdays Joe,

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Joe, Neil, Miller, and Dave Gonzales will gather the ravens

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for trial by content. In this season, full episodes of Talk to Thrones

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