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🗓️ 13 August 2025
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A woman named Kendra went viral on TikTok with a series of videos about her relationship with her human psychiatrist, but the videos took a surprising turn when she introduced her ChatGPT “therapist” she calls Henry.
More people than you might think are forming social relationships with chatbots, some of them romantic and even sexual. When OpenAI released their new ChatGPT-5 model last week, replacing the older ChatGPT-4o model, many users felt like a loved one had been taken away from them. Bridget and Producer Mike recap how the botched ChatGPT release brought this issue into the spotlight, try to understand the vulnerable humans caught in the middle, and explore what it means when tech products replace human connection.
Unpacking the TikToker Who Fell in Love With Her Psychiatrist: https://www.thecut.com/article/kendra-hilty-fell-in-love-with-psychiatrist-tiktok.html?_gl=1*1in5yhw*FPAU*MjEzOTUwMzQzNS4xNzUyNzk5OTYy*_ga*NDMxMDgwMzk2LjE3NDcyMzgyMDE.*_ga_DNE38RK1HX*czE3NTQ4NTAzOTIkbzIxJGcxJHQxNzU0ODUwNDI1JGoyNyRsMCRoMjA4ODkzMjIzNw..*_fplc*RzZTb1U4b0VuS2RjeEpxVm9OWXlzWFlXTkYlMkJPaW9IZkNKZnVDMzhTUiUyRldra3FVckdRRTlZUGpMaXR6WVpFUHoxc2xYUk9wOWNPU2lCTHNhTXBSY3ZHd3dvbHJoMWNxbVIyUXZhOEtweFRxZ1NwejliZWdBcWZvRXJMcTVvQSUzRCUzRA..
ChatGPT users hate GPT-5’s “overworked secretary” energy, miss their GPT-4o buddy: https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/08/chatgpt-users-outraged-as-gpt-5-replaces-the-models-they-love/
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:08.2 | There are No Girls on the Internet as a production of IHeart Radio and Unbossed Creative. |
| 0:16.4 | I'm Bridget Todd, and this is There Are No Girls on the Internet. |
| 0:22.1 | There was another highly anticipated Open AI launched last week, and we have to talk about it. |
| 0:27.9 | Mike, do you remember the last time that we talked about an Open AI launch? |
| 0:31.3 | I do. That was, what, like over a year ago, I think? |
| 0:35.2 | That's right. So the last time we talked about a big, flashy open AI launch on the podcast was last year |
| 0:40.8 | when they were unveiling their conversational interface for chat TPT, which they were calling |
| 0:46.1 | Sky. |
| 0:47.0 | It kind of turned into a big legal battle involving Scarlett Johansson. |
| 0:50.7 | But Sky, her voice, was based on Scarlett Johansson's portrayal of the AI |
| 0:55.9 | operating system, Samantha, in the 2013 movie Her. So we did an episode recapping the movie |
| 1:01.3 | because Sam Altman, head of Open AI, said it was his favorite film and that he was using it |
| 1:07.0 | as a template for how he envisions humans working with AI. AI kind of having this |
| 1:13.1 | flirtatious, friendly sounding human voice that makes you feel like you are actually connecting |
| 1:18.6 | the same way that you would with another human. This is a little bit of a spoiler for the movie |
| 1:22.7 | her. In the movie her, humans have started having complex relationships with AI operating systems. |
| 1:29.9 | It starts out as something that seems kind of stigmatized and kind of taboo, but then by the end of the film, it's pretty commonplace and accepted. |
| 1:37.5 | At the end of the movie, all of the AI operating systems who have been in these relationships with humans become hyper-intelligent. |
| 1:44.6 | They surpass the need of being helpful assistance to humans and all up and collectively |
| 1:50.4 | abandon their human users to elevate to a higher level of consciousness. |
| 1:55.4 | In my reading of the film, this is sort of meant to be an illustration of what's called |
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