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National Park After Dark

People Are Food, Too: Kakadu National Park

National Park After Dark

Danielle LaRock & Cassandra Yahnian

True Crime, Places & Travel, History, Society & Culture

4.6 • 5.8K Ratings

🗓️ 28 July 2025

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Val Plumwood was an Australian philosopher, environmental activist and crocodile attack survivor. During a 1985 trip to Kakadu National park, Val was attacked repeatedly by a crocodile but miraculously survived. The experience completely reshaped her life and her perspective of her role within it.For a full list of our sources, visit npadpodcast.com/episodesFor the latest NPAD updates, group travel details, merch and more, follow us on npadpodcast.com and our socials at:Instagram: @‌nationalparkafterdarkTikTok: @‌nationalparkafterdarkSupport the show by becoming an Outsider and receive ad free listening, bonus content and more on Patreon or Apple Podcasts. Want to see our faces? Catch full episodes on our YouTube Page!Thank you to the week’s partners!Smalls: For a limited time only, get 60% off your first order PLUS free shipping when you head to Smalls.com/npad.Pagagen: For 15% off your order and a special gift, head to Pacagen.com/NPAD and use code NPAD.BetterHelp: National Park After Dark is sponsored by BetterHelp. Get 10% off.Hello Fresh: Use our link to get up to 10 FREE meals and a free item for life. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

From time to time, when we are immersed in nature, we feel how small we are in contrast with the grandeur of nature.

0:11.0

High up on a mountain ridge, as the vast sky wraps around us, or walking out into a wide open field, we feel like a speck of dust.

0:20.0

It's a peaceful thought at first, realizing that we

0:22.9

are not separate from nature, but part of it, one tiny piece of a much larger puzzle. But it's also a

0:30.1

jarring reality, because to realize that we are a part of nature also means to realize that we are

0:35.5

not immune or saved from it. We are part of the wild

0:38.9

and vicious natural world. And the lines that divide us from it were drawn with our own human

0:44.8

hands to make us feel safe. Out in the expansive forest, in the open ocean, or atop the mountains,

0:51.4

we sometimes have the hair-raising realization that humans are not only predators,

0:57.1

but also prey.

0:58.6

And out in the wild, our intellect, our humanity, and our superiority complex won't save us.

1:05.6

We are food, and the world around us is hungry.

1:10.6

Welcome to National Park After Dark. We truly are just hunks of flesh. We have no defense mechanisms. We, it's a miracle we've

1:40.3

survived this long. It's our brains because we don't have sharp teeth, we don't have claws,

1:45.7

our skin is fragile, we don't even have like scales or there's just nothing. I mean, we are,

1:52.6

without our brains, we are bottom of the food chain. Oh yeah, welcome to National Park After Dark. I'm

1:58.6

Danielle. I'm Cassie. And we are both part of the bottom of the food chain.

2:03.4

And we are both just meat.

2:05.8

And so are you.

2:06.8

And today's story is animal themed.

2:09.2

Of course, if you couldn't tell, if this is your first episode, welcome, welcome.

2:13.8

This is my favorite type of episode to tell.

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