Pennsylvania Putsch ft. Michael Hayden

Fever Dreams

The Daily Beast

News & Politics, Government

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🗓️ 18 May 2022

⏱️ 50 minutes

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The Pennsylvania Senate primary results are in, and the hosts discuss how insurgent right-winger Kathy Barnette’s rise was an indication of how fringe figures are now outflanking even the former president and his favored candidates. Michael Hayden from the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) joins the podcast to discuss the mass shooting in Buffalo and the accused killer’s obsession with the bogus ‘great replacement’ lie. The podcast hosts also discuss a recent New York Times expose on how QAnon factions within evangelical churches are driving out conservative pastors who give “any sort of nod to any kind of social justice, any kind of nod to Black Lives Matter or treating the poor well”—and how neo-Nazis in Idaho are driving out more moderate Republicans by entrenching themselves in local politics and running vicious harassment campaigns against their enemies.

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Will Summer. Welcome to The Daily Beast's Fever Dreams. I'm a politics reporter at The Daily Beast, and I'm currently working on a book about Q&ONN called Trust the Plan for Harper Collins coming out later this year.
0:09.9	And I'm Kelly Weil. I am also a reporter at The Daily Beast, and I'm the author of the book Off the Edge, Flat Earthers, Conspiracy Culture, and Why people will believe anything. On this podcast, we're going to take you on
0:21.1	plunges into the sometimes hilarious, sometimes scary fanatics, infecting the way that millions of
0:25.6	Americans view the world and how they vote. Even in the aftermath of the Trump administration,
0:30.4	the energy of these conspiracy theorists, grifters, and influencers is still pushing our mainstream
0:35.5	political landscape closer and closer to a breaking point.
0:39.5	All right, Kelly, obviously the big news, unfortunately on our beat is the shooting last weekend in
0:44.3	Buffalo committed by a white supremacist, appears to have been motivated by the great replacement
0:48.3	conspiracy theory. But there's a lot to unpack there. We will be getting into that later on in the
0:52.2	episode with our guest, Michael Hayden from the Southern Poverty Law Center. That's right. Yeah, it's a very busy week, obviously,
0:58.5	that's going on. A couple states have primaries right now where some fringe candidates are on the ballot.
1:04.2	But I think we couldn't go without touching on a really interesting story in the New York Times
1:09.3	this week about the crackup of a church over
1:12.8	Q&on factions within. And it's a really interesting story because I think it gets at a
1:17.7	phenomenon that's affecting a lot of churches throughout the country where you've got a maybe
1:22.4	normal conservative pastor and then you've got the hardcore Q-Flock.
1:28.0	Yeah, this is an interesting story here from the Times reporter Ruth Graham, who does a great
1:31.4	job covering evangelicals.
1:32.9	The story is called for people who want to check it out.
1:34.6	It's as a seismic shift fractures evangelicals, an Arkansas pastor leaves home.
1:38.7	And so she kind of pings in on this pastor in Arkansas, who is what we might think of as
1:43.9	like a George W. Bush era conservative.
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