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So, Penelope Spheiress directed Wayne's World,

but before that she was best known for her music documentaries.

Her movie The Decline of Western Civilization was filmed in 1979 and 1980

and it took her deep into the mosh pit of the LA punk rock scene.

She was up close and personal with Black Flag, the Germs, X.

I've been filming before where, you know, I've had to get out of the way because somebody's

slamming into me you know I've gotten a black eye before I've looked down on the floor

and seen teeth that had been knocked out, you know.

It's, yeah, it's been quite an adventure shooting this stuff.

Presumably none of that with Wayne and Garth.

It's bullseye.

Hey! It's bullsey. It's bullsey. Coming up, I'll talk to Penelope Spheris about bringing order to the chaos of punk rock and why she was uniquely

positioned to Helm Wayne's world. I think I was the only director in Hollywood that

had any experience with quote-unquote headbangers you know and and Wayne and Garth thought they were

headbangers they weren't really don't tell anyone but they thought they were.

Later I'll sit down with the Sri Lankan American singer-songwriter B Be Beeman.

He says winning over new audiences can be a bit of a challenge.

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