Pence won’t appeal ruling, setting the stage for him to testify before grand jury

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🗓️ 6 April 2023

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A spokesman for former Vice President Mike Pence says he won’t appeal a federal court ruling that orders him to testify in the special counsel investigation into the efforts by then-President Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 presidential election. This would be the first time Pence will answer questions under oath about his direct conversations with Trump leading up the deadly January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol. Sarah Matthews is a former Trump White House Deputy Press Secretary. She tells Anderson Cooper she’s “encouraged” Pence won’t appeal the judge’s decision and believes his testimony will be “honest and transparent.” Plus, a judge says Dominion Voting Systems can force Fox Corporation executives Rupert and Lachlan Murdoch to testify at this month’s defamation trial. Dominion wants $1.6 billion in damages claiming the right-wing network repeatedly promote false claims in 2020 that its voting systems illegally rigged the election. CNN Senior Media Reporter Oliver Darcy joins AC360 to give an update on the timeline of the trial. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	More than 24 hours after the former president was arraigned tonight new trouble for him.
0:04.4	Former Vice President Mike Pence no longer fighting in court, now willing to testify before
0:09.1	a grand jury in the Department of Justice's investigation to January 6th, about direct
0:13.5	conversations he had with the former president leading up to that day when he and his family
0:17.9	were forced to flee a mob demanding he be hanged.
0:21.2	Today, Vice President Pence dropped his appeal of the federal court decision ordering
0:26.0	his testimony.
0:27.0	Now, this would be the first time that a former Vice President testifies about his former
0:30.9	boss in a criminal investigation.
0:32.6	In this case, a boss who, according to testimony before the January 6th, select committee said
0:38.3	he deserved to be hanged.
0:43.7	If I were you, I would still be livid with Donald Trump.
0:48.7	I would be so furious and I know you're a measured man.
0:56.6	But are you still angry?
0:58.8	Well, I must tell you that President's words and tweet that day were reckless and endangered
1:09.8	my family and all the people at the Capitol.
1:13.9	And I was angry.
1:15.8	But you know, my Christian faith tells me to be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow
1:22.0	to become angry.
1:24.7	And in the Christian faith forgiveness is not optional.
1:28.2	Well forgiving is one thing, forgetting another.
1:30.1	We'll see how much he remembers under oath.
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