This is Tyler O'Neill, a managing editor at the Daily Signal, and I'm honored to be joined

by Mike Pence, former Governor of Indiana, former Vice President, and a candidate for

the 2024 Republican presidential nomination.

Great to be with you, Tyler. Thanks so much. Thanks for all the Daily Signal does every day.

Thanks so much for joining me. Mike, you just released an ambitious plan to curb the federal

government and return much of its power to the states. How would that plan decrease the spending

that we've seen cause so much inflation? Well, actually, Tyler, people can go to Mike Pence

2024.com and see that this is the third policy platform that we've unveiled. I'm someone who

believes that ideas have consequences, and as we vie for the Republican nomination, I want

people to understand what our vision is to tackle inflation, to unleash American energy.

But I really believe the time has come for us to restore and revive federalism in America.

Maybe it's that I was a governor, right? I served in Congress before that. I was Vice President,

but, you know, I understand the vital role that states have played in the life of the nation.

But I also think over maybe the last 75 years, we've seen more consolidation of power and control

in Washington, D.C. And that's just not what the founders intended. They intended these

states to be laboratories of innovation and reform. And they, I think throughout the constitution,

you see the principles of a limited federal government. And then the 10th amendment, I believe,

was almost like an exclamation point at the end of the bill of rights that essentially said,

if you didn't get it yet, we're going to say it one more time. The power's not delegated to

the federal government. I reserved to the states and to the people. And so I think shutting down

the federal Department of Education, let's transfer resources and control for housing and welfare

and education all back to the states and say, why don't you and your home state redesign these

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