Pence considered not presiding over January 6th electoral vote certification, according to new reporting

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🗓️ 29 November 2023

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Joy leads this episode of The ReidOut with new reporting that former Vice President Mike Pence seriously considered not attending the January 6th electoral vote certification. According to new details from sources familiar, it was Pence’s son, a marine, who influenced his father’s decision to preside despite mounting pressure from former President Trump. Also in this episode, as Russia extends the detention of American journalist Evan Gershkovich, Joy sits down with Masha Gessen of the New Yorker, another journalist the Russian government is seeking to prosecute. Finally, the Texas Supreme Court heard arguments Tuesday on whether the state’s abortion bans hurt women with complicated pregnancies. One of the plaintiffs in an ongoing lawsuit filed by a group of Texas women who say they were denied abortions despite grave risks to their own lives or their fetuses, joins Joy to discuss. All this and more in this edition of The ReidOut on MSNBC.

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0:00.0	Tonight on the readout.
0:04.0	The role of the Congress and the role of the
0:09.0	Vice President on that day is to open and count electoral votes no more no less and I'll always
0:15.8	believe by God's grace that I did my duty that day. But there was more to it
0:21.4	than that there's new reporting that Mike Pence seriously
0:24.2	considered shirking that solemn duty and skipping the January 6th electoral
0:29.0	vote certification. Also tonight Russia extends the detention of American journalist Evan Gerskovich and is seeking to
0:36.7	prosecute another journalist.
0:38.9	Masha Gessin of the New Yorker joins me tonight. Plus honoring the life of former first lady
0:44.8	Rosalin Carter, a tribute service, is attended by all the living
0:49.2	the living first ladies and three presidents including her beloved husband of 77
0:56.1	years former president Jimmy Carter.
0:59.1	But we begin tonight with new reporting about January 6th that may help explain a
1:06.4	lingering mystery in the lead up to that day. Just one day before then Vice
1:11.0	President Mike Pence was to preside over the
1:13.2	electoral college vote count. The president pro tempore of the Senate,
1:17.4	Republican Chuck Grassley, set off quite the controversy when he indicated that he might in fact preside over the
1:25.9	count after being asked for reporters how he was going to vote on the election
1:30.5	certification quote well first of all, I will be,
1:34.6	if the vice president isn't there,
1:36.1	and we don't expect him to be there,
1:38.6	I will be presiding over the Senate.
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