Hey there, it's the MPR Politics Podcast, I'm Susan Davis, I cover Congress.

I'm Asma Khaled, I cover the presidential campaign.

And I'm Aisha Rasko, I cover the White House.

And it is 11.24pm Eastern on Wednesday, October 7th.

And the vice presidential debate between Vice President Mike Pence and California Senator

Kamala Harris has just ended.

And I think we have to start off just by talking about the tone.

It was like a palette cleanser for the interrupt fest that was the first presidential debate.

Yeah, so and it wasn't surprising because Vice President Pence is so much different from

President Trump.

You know, he's a traditional politician and he is the type of politician who I think sometimes

Republicans want Trump to be just, you know, on message.

I think that's the big, you know, I think that's a discipline.

And discipline, on message and discipline and you know, assertive at times, but not

what we saw last week with President Trump.

But I will say there was this sense that there was this, it felt kind of like this passive

aggressive politeness and I say this as a fellow Midwesterner myself.

There is this sensible, like already Midwesternized, right, which is I felt, you know, what we

saw at times from from the Vice President.

And Senator, I want to thank you and Joe Biden for your expressions, genuine concern.

And I also want to congratulate you as I did on that phone call on the historic nature

of your nomination.

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