Nancy Pelosi has left Taiwan, but the fallout for U.S.-China relations will continue.

We need a new system. We need a new society.

We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago,

but is not only realizable, but an imperativeond. Dr. Hammond is a professor of East Asian and global history at New Mexico State University.

He was the founding director of the Confucius Institute at the university.

He's also an organizer and activist with the Peace Group Pivot to Peace.

Dr. Hammond, welcome back.

Always glad to be here, Brian.

Ken, we spoke two weeks ago in anticipation of Nancy Pelosi's trip to Taiwan, what the Chinese called a strategic level provocation.

We didn't know with certainty.

No one really did until really a few hours before she arrived.

But indeed, she did arrive this week.

And the Chinese are carrying out live fire massive military exercises around Taiwan. They're

announcing boycotts of important commodities coming from Taiwan that have a mainland China market.

No one knows yet for sure what the fallout will be.

But when we were talking, and I'm more firmly convinced of this than ever, Nancy Pelosi's trip,

which seems on its face to be gratuitous, that is unnecessary, like a reckless, unnecessary provocation.

Wasn't the rogue actions of a rogue politician coming from Washington?

Of course, she's number three in the line of succession after the president and vice president.

But there was some sort of talk about, well, Biden said, we're not telling her to go.

We've advised her not to go. She could not have gone. She could not have gone without the blessing of the Biden White House. She could not have

gone without the blessing of the Pentagon. If the Pentagon or the White House said to the Speaker

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