This is Philosophy versus Improv, where two sages try to teach each other a thing or two,

and maybe you, the audience, gets something out of it as well.

This is Mark Linson-Myer, your guide to philosophy today.

And this is Bill Arnett, a philosophical line cook, it an improv executive chef.

See, that's good.

And we have a guest.

We have a guest today.

Yes, we have dual guides.

So they might pull in different directions.

They might pull this way and that way.

And his improv experience, Colby, introduce yourself, please.

Hi, my name is Colby Granville.

I'm the editor-in-chief and founder of

After Dinner Conversation, a monthly short-story literary magazine, but the reason I'm on your

podcast is because its focus is ethical and philosophical questions. So we only publish short

stories that are somehow tied to what would a good person do sort of something. Okay, okay.

So you don't think that just applies to any short story if you read it deeply enough?

Yeah, no, that's actually a great point.

So, you know, I used to use the example of Harry Potter of like, it's just reading.

And then Harry Potter people got after me and they're like, well, what about that it's about friendship?

It's about, and I totally

get it. It's a spectrum. I like, I get that it's a spectrum. What I would say is when you finish

...