This is Philosophy versus Improv, where two sages try to teach each other a thing or two,

and maybe you, the audience, gets something out of it as well. I'm Mark Linsenmeier. I will be your

primary philosophy facilitator today. And I am Mary Hines, and I am bringing the improvisational prowess.

And my name is Scott Gelfand, and I am bringing a book to be discussed.

Yes, thank you, Scott.

Tell us the name of your book.

The book is called Thinking Ethically, a handbook for Moral Choices.

You are still officially an actual professor?

You're emeritus right now?

Is that?

I'm emeritus. I was chair of the philosophy department for the last 10 years. And as of August 10th,

this summer, I am officially retired at Oklahoma State University, where my podcast cohort, Lawrence Ware,

teaches as well. That's correct. Congratulations, Scott. On what? The book?

On all of the above that you just mentioned. The book, the retirement, you know, all your different

levels of life transformation. Thank you. I look forward to this, by the way. I've been thinking

about it. So yes, is that you don't have the constant stream of students

to pour your wisdom upon. I know you're gaining from that in having time to actually think about

what you're writing rather than think about what you're teaching the next day, but what are you

missing? I miss the relationships with the students so much. I mean, I have more than a handful of students who I've been talking with

for 10, 15, 20 years, students who stop in and visit, seeing my students grow. I mean,

I missed that so much, and I loved teaching. But having time to write is just special. I've also

started a philosophical counseling practice. It's something that I did

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