This is Pretty Much Pop, a culture podcast.

And you may already know which one of us is the murderer, but you'll never prove it.

Today we're discussing the new era of TV and film mysteries,

ushered in by Ryan Johnson, the writer of Gretcher behind the knives out films

and the new show, Pokerface.

I'm Mark Linton-Mire, and my alibi is as firm as my glutes.

I'm Al Baker and I know you did something I just don't know how.

My name is Sarah Limbreck, and probably the opposite of a human-like editor.

My name is Lawrence Wehr, and I'm Black, so that means I probably be.

Is that the way it worked in the 1960s?

Absolutely!

This is the way it worked back in Colombo days, and murder she wrote the haze.

What was it used?

All right, so this was, I think, just something that we had all experienced in some form or other.

We ended up pushing this back a week, so we had a little extra time.

So I ended up rewatching Glass Onion.

I thought it was fresh enough, it just came out this December or so,

and I'd seen knives out a couple times once in the theater, and then once with my kids since then,

and then have just been watching Pokerface as it came out.

Thanks to, you know, sort of making this connection, sort of been in the press that it's not an official,

Pokerface is not official Colombo reboot.

It has the whole lie detector thing that's, well, there was a show called Lie To Me that was sort of used that,

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