Pegasus Spyware
Let's Know Things
Colin Wright
4.8 • 593 Ratings
🗓️ 4 January 2022
⏱️ 27 minutes
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Summary
This week we talk about NSO Group, Mattel, and Poland.
We also discuss vulnerabilities, human rights activists, and Citizen Lab.
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| 0:00.0 | In May of 2000, the parent of a child who was using a piece of educational software called Reader Rabbit was alerted by their firewall. |
| 0:23.6 | Another piece of software that notes happenings in one's computer, especially when those happenings involve the computer making connections to the internet. |
| 0:33.6 | They were alerted that this Reader Rabbit game was calling home, |
| 0:37.5 | was making a surreptitious internet connection behind the scenes, |
| 0:41.5 | and sending data back to its parent company, Mattel. |
| 0:45.3 | Alarmingly, he was informed of this connection by the firewall later |
| 0:50.1 | after his kid was asleep when he was doing work on the same computer. The Reader Rabbit software |
| 0:56.2 | had apparently logged data about its use and was now, while he was connected to the internet, |
| 1:03.6 | sending that data elsewhere, heavily encrypted, so he had no way of knowing what sorts of data |
| 1:09.7 | it was transmitting, about what, and to whom. |
| 1:13.7 | When asked about this phone-home behavior, a Mattel spokesperson said that nothing nefarious was |
| 1:20.3 | happening. The company had software called Broadcast, enabled in something like 100 CD-ROM-based |
| 1:27.1 | products they sold, installed automatically |
| 1:30.0 | with the rest of the program, and it was included primarily as a means of offering discounts |
| 1:35.9 | on other products to folks who had already bought one of Mattel's software offerings, or in some |
| 1:42.2 | cases to offer users a freebie, like a screensaver, after the |
| 1:46.4 | software confirmed they had installed the original product. Not mentioned in Mattel's press |
| 1:52.9 | release about the issue, though, is the fact that many companies, including this kind of marketing |
| 1:58.5 | and advertising-related software with their products, |
| 2:02.0 | also collect a bundle of other data from their users' computers, |
| 2:06.6 | including very personal bits of private data that could, in the wrong hands, |
| 2:12.1 | lead to some serious security concerns. |
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