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Intelligence Matters

Pedro Burelli on what's behind the crisis in Venezuela

Intelligence Matters

CBS News

Politics, News, Government

4.73.3K Ratings

🗓️ 31 October 2017

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

On this episode of Intelligence Matters, Michael Morell talks with Pedro Burelli, a former member of the Executive Board of Petroleos de Venezuela about is behind the crisis in Venezuela, what fueled firebrand leader Hugo Chavez's paranoia, how the nation evolved to a narco-state, the current humanitarian crisis, and whether the country can recover without an outside intervention. Intelligence Matters is the new, wildly popular podcast from The Cipher Brief in partnership with CBS News, where former Acting Director of the CIA Michael Morell speaks with top leaders about the key national security issues of our time.

Transcript

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0:07.6

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0:12.8

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0:18.1

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0:19.8

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0:26.5

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0:31.0

We're not dealing with an incompetent government.

0:35.7

We're not dealing with an ideology.

0:37.8

We're dealing with a criminal gang.

0:41.7

The 100,000 barrels of oil that Venezuela gave to Cuba wasn't for doctors or wasn't for

0:46.1

sports trainer.

0:47.1

I think it was just payment for protection.

0:49.1

It was protection money.

0:50.3

Would it be an overstatement to call Venezuela a narco state?

0:54.3

Venezuela is a narco state without any doubt.

0:58.7

How does this end in Venezuela?

1:01.8

Badly.

1:03.0

This is Intelligence Matters with Michael Morrell, a joint production of the cipherbrief.com

1:10.8

and CBS News.

1:11.8

I'm Cipherbrief CEO and publisher Suzanne Kelly.

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