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The Eurointelligence Podcast

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The Eurointelligence Podcast

Wolfgang Munchau

News, Eu, European Politics, Political Economy, Italy, Brexit, Recovery Fund, Political Risk, Business, European Union, Netherlands, Ecb, Economics, Uk, Fiscal Union, Government, Transatlantic Relations, European Integration, France, Geopolitics, Eurozone, Banking, China, Spain, Germany, Political Union, Politics, Trade, Eu-china

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🗓️ 12 November 2023

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In our latest podcast, our team discusses the political deal between Sanchez and Puigdemont, and what to expect to happen in Spain now.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Euro Intelligence Podcast.

0:03.2

I'm Wolfgang Munchau, and with me are Zuzana Munchank and Jack Smith.

0:07.5

Today, we would like to talk about Spain.

0:09.9

Sanchez has struck a deal, a coalition deal with Pukdemont.

0:14.3

This is a big step towards him, possibly.

0:19.0

Jack will explain this in a second to us, but how likely this is, but possibly

0:23.6

to forming another government. This would be just looking at it from three or four months ago,

0:28.3

a massive surprise that Sanchez is still back in the saddle. Jack, you wrote about Spain

0:33.5

all week long. Explain to me where we are and where we are not. Okay, yeah. So the first thing to say

0:39.8

about this is obviously this is a pretty contentious topic and I am going to be focusing just on

0:44.9

where we are and where we are not. As our listeners can probably tell, I am not Spanish. And I think

0:50.0

that in terms of whether Sanchez was right or wrong to cut this deal, that's really a matter

0:55.8

for Spain and its judicial and political institutions as well as its voters to decide.

1:00.7

I don't want to pass judgment on this, and I just want to kind of talk about the facts, so to speak,

1:05.5

you know, what we do know and the questions that we have. In terms of the deal that has been

1:10.4

struck, you know, the first thing

1:12.0

to say is that in as much as this will potentially lead to a future government, it will be a

1:18.0

minority government of two components. The first central component will be a coalition of the Socialist

1:24.7

Party, which Pedro Sanchez leads, and a left-wing party called Sumar, which Yolanda

1:30.0

Diaz, who has been the Minister for Labor and the previous government leads.

1:34.1

So that's the actual coalition, in as much as they have ministers in government itself.

1:39.6

The other parties, which are mostly regionalist and separatist parties, support the government

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