Hello everyone and welcome to talk nerdy. Today is Monday, June 20th,

2022 and I'm the host of the show, Kara Santa Maria. And before we dive into this week's episode, I do want to thank those of you who made

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All right, let's dive into this week's episode. It's one that's really, really near and dear to my heart.

And you've heard me talk about this a little bit on the show, but as I'm continuing my training and getting closer and closer to my PhD.

I am focusing more and more on psycho on

oncology, so providing psychotherapy to individuals

who are dealing with cancer and other life-limiting illnesses and also working on end of life issues.

And that's why I think this episode was such an important one for me.

So I had the opportunity to sit down with Dr. Natasha Dattu.

And she is an expert and a provider in pediatric palliative care at Canuck Place.

Canuck Place is North America's first children's hospice and they provide interdisciplinary specialized

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