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10% Happier with Dan Harris

Peak Performance at Any Age | Christiane Wolf (Dharma Teacher/Doctor/Ultramarathoner)

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Dan Harris, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Dharma, Mental Health, Meditation

4.6 • 12.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 June 2025

⏱️ 76 minutes

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Summary

Beyond the cliché: listening to your body.

Christiane Wolf, MD, PhD is a former physician and internationally known mindfulness and Insight (Vipassana) meditation teacher. She is the author of “Outsmart Your Pain” and the coauthor of “A Clinician’s Guide to Teaching Mindfulness”. She is also a senior teacher at InsightLA in Los Angeles. And in her spare time, she runs ultramarathons.

In this episode we talk about:

  • How to develop and hone interoception
  • How to do practices like a body scan — and how helpful it can be for all aspects of life
  • How to shift how we relate to our body
  • The four foundations of mindfulness — one of the crucial discourses of the Buddha 
  • What a healthy relationship to the body looks like 
  • Translating monastic practices to our modern day lives 
  • How to reduce stress and suffering in the body 
  • Indifference vs equanimity / serenity 
  • Helpful questions to ask yourself in cultivating a new relationship with your body 
  • The four sources of reluctance or resistance to exercise 
  • Discipline vs self-compassion 
  • Unpacking the dysfunction among people who overexercise 
  • What we can learn from injury 

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Transcript

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0:00.0

This is the 10% Happier Podcast. I'm Dan Harris.

0:18.0

Hey, gang, today we're going to tackle one of the most venerable and in the wrong hands,

0:23.3

annoying contemplative cliches, listening to your body.

0:28.3

There's actually a scientific word for this.

0:30.7

And my guest today, who's awesome and is a triple threat, she's a Dharma teacher, a doctor,

0:35.7

and an ultramarathonerer is going to talk about both the

0:39.1

benefits of interception or listening to your body and how to do it, how to actually operationalize

0:46.1

the cliche. I love this conversation. Actually, we cover a lot of ground here. As mentioned, we talk

0:51.3

about listening to your body, including some meditation techniques that can help you hone this skill. But we also talk about how to achieve peak performance

0:58.6

at any age. She's an ultramarathoner in her late 50s, which I found incredibly inspiring.

1:04.9

We talk about why some people don't exercise and how those folks can get motivated. How, for those of us who do exercise, it can often

1:12.7

come from a place of trauma-based hustling, which rang a bell for me, how to deal with injuries

1:18.9

and what you can learn from injuries, discipline versus self-compassion, indifference versus

1:24.3

equanimity, how to have a healthy overall relationship to your body, and much more.

1:30.2

This is the second appearance on the pod by Dr. Cristiana Wolf.

1:35.1

She no longer practices medicine, but she has both an MD and a PhD.

1:39.2

She now spends most of her time teaching meditation and writing books.

1:43.4

She's the author of two books,

1:44.7

Outsmart Your Pain, which she came on the show to discuss several years ago. And she's also

1:50.4

the co-author of a clinician's guide to teaching mindfulness. And she's a senior teacher at

1:56.3

Insight, L.A. in Los Angeles. And as mentioned in her spare time, she runs ultramarathons, which she will

2:02.9

talk about. And I found incredibly cool. This episode, by the way, kicks off a month-long series

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