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Peaches and Klaus Biesenbach (Live in Berlin)

Talk Art

Russell Tovey and Robert Diament c/o Independent Talent

Sculpture, Unknown, Russell Tovey, Painting, Drawing, Art, Artist Interview, Arts, Studio Visit, Visual Arts, Art Talk, Contemporary Art, Entertainment, Celebrity, Modern Art, Artwork, Talk Art, Robert Diament

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 18 September 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Talk Art Live in Berlin. Season 26 of Talk Art begins!!!!


This episode is a special Paid Partnership collaboration with Berlin Art Week, who flew Russell & Robert to Berlin.


Recorded live, in front of an audience, outside the Neue Nationalgalerie in September 2025. Special guests Peaches @peachesnisker (musician, producer, director, performance artist) and Klaus Biesenbach @klausbiesenbach (Director, Neue Nationalgalerie) join the conversation about art, music, and the Berlin art scene.


An iconic feminist musician, producer, director, and performance artist, Peaches has spent nearly two decades pushing boundaries and wielding immeasurable influence over mainstream pop culture from outside of its confines, carving a bold, sexually progressive path in her own image that's opened the door for countless others to follow. She’s collaborated with everyone from Iggy Pop and Daft Punk to Kim Gordon and Major Lazer, had her music featured cultural watermarks like Lost In Translation, The Handmaid's Tale, and Broad City among others, and seen her work studied at universities around the world.


Dubbed a “genuine heroine” by the New York Times, Peaches has released five critically acclaimed studio albums blending electronic music, hip-hop, and punk rock while tackling gender politics, sexual identity, ageism, and the patriarchy. Uncut has raved that her work brought together "high art, low humour and deluxe filth [in] a hugely seductive combination,” while Rolling Stone called her “surreally funny [and] nasty.”


An equally prolific visual artist, Peaches has directed over twenty of her own videos, designed one of the most raw and creative stage shows in popular music, and has appeared at modern art’s most prestigious gatherings, from Art Basel Miami to the Venice Biennale. On top of it all, she mounted a one-woman production of 'Jesus Christ Superstar’—redubbed ‘Peaches Christ Superstar’—which earned international raves, composed and performed the electro-rock opera 'Peaches Does Herself,' which premiered at the Toronto International Film Festival, and sang the title role in a production of Monteverdi's epic 17th-century opera 'L’Orfeo' in Berlin. Visit: https://www.teachesofpeaches.com/


Klaus Biesenbach began his career in Berlin 30 years ago aged 25, when he was one of a group that set up the KW Institute for Contemporary Art in a former margarine factory. In 2004, he became a curator at the Museum of Modern Art in New York, where he rose to the position of chief curator and founded a new department for media and performance art. In 2010, he became director of MoMA PS1, the museum's outpost in Queen's. At MOCA in Los Angeles, he introduced free admission, expanded the collection and navigated the museum through the pandemic.



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0:00.0

Good afternoon, good morning, good evening, whatever you are in the world. I'm Russell Tovey.

0:07.4

And I'm Robert Dianne. And this is Talk Art. Welcome to Talk Art. How are you today, Robert?

0:12.2

Today, Russell, we are outside. We are in Berlin. Berlin Art Week. Yes. And we have a live audience.

0:19.1

And I am feeling like a student. Oh, that's

0:22.7

nice. Because this location, Berlin, is a place that taught me so much. And it actually goes all the

0:30.1

way back to my sort of relationship with contemporary art and also my friendship with you.

0:34.3

Because when we first became friends, we used to travel here all the time.

0:43.2

We came to the Berlin Biennale. We came to Berlin Art Week and whatever it was before. I think it was called something else before. And we used to come here and make pilgrimages here to see

0:47.2

exhibitions by artists that we love. And also, both of today's guests, we have an amazing

0:52.9

international curator and one of my favorite ever

0:56.1

musicians, performers, artists, writers, producers with us as well. And both of them have taught me so much.

1:03.3

And I really do feel like one of the reasons I love art and contemporary art has always been because

1:07.5

you have never learned it all. And there's always something new to discover. And every week I'd discover a new artist that I'd never heard of all and there's always something new to discover

1:10.8

and every week I'd discover a new artist that I'd never heard of and there's a whole kind of

1:15.0

wonderful thing with curating where when you see an exhibition it tells the story to you of that

1:21.0

artist's work and life and it almost becomes like a gateway to experience something new both within

1:26.5

yourself but also your relationship to the

1:29.0

world and different histories. And today's musical guest is somebody that was a kind of gateway

1:35.7

for me in many ways. I first saw her performing in Berlin when I was a massive fan of both

1:41.3

herself, Mignon, González, Feist, like this whole kind of generation of new musicians. A lot of them had come from Canada as well. Yeah, and I remember seeing gigs in Berlin, in the Astoria in London, in nightclubs like Nag, Nag, Nag, Nag. And I was very much sort of part of that electro-clash universe. Yeah, and she kind of opened up my heart, liberated me in many ways, and more recently

2:02.8

saw her perform at Dreamland in Margate,

2:04.9

which was rebellious and very exciting.

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