Summary
On the 8th May 1945, the Allies declared victory over Nazi Germany. How has war and the threat of war shaped society in the intervening years? Do 'war' and 'peace' mean the same things, 80 years on? Matthew Sweet is joined by political scientist David Runciman, peace negotiator Gabrielle Rifkind, historian Ashleigh Percival-Borley
Producer: Luke Mulhall
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| 0:21.6 | The stat that is astonishing is they ended with the lowest amount of possession. |
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| 0:42.5 | 40 years ago, Margaret Thatcher made one of her most interesting U-turns. |
| 0:47.8 | Her junior minister, Baroness Young, had expressed the government position just a few |
| 0:52.9 | days before. |
| 0:53.7 | An official large-scale celebration of VE Day, she said, would appear at best nostalgic |
| 1:00.4 | and at worst anti-German, unbalanced, and open to historical distortion by the Soviet Union. |
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