Hello and welcome back to Close Freeds here on the Close Streets Podcast Network. I am David Kern and I am

joined by two people who have also read their fair share of Mark Twain, Heidi White and Tim McIntosh.

That was a good one, y'all. Hey, David. Hey, David. Hey, David. Ask Heidi how she's feeling.

Okay, hold on a second. Hey, Heidi, how are you feeling?

Oh, thanks for asking, guys.

I have been really sick with the flu.

I know, it's a surprise.

Yeah, I've been sick, but it's the worst.

It's like a horrible, horrible disease.

And I really was like ready for leeches and, oh man, like, send away for a rest cure.

So you know how bloodletting?

Yeah.

You know how people question the veracity, the success rate of bloodletting and leeches?

I have been thinking about this, and I have a question.

That's because you recently had the flu.

That's why you've been thinking about it.

Perhaps they can't prove, I mean, perhaps they, I can see why they don't think that it

worked great, but can they prove that it didn't work great?

Like, can you prove that leeches didn't work? We may not be able to prove that they do work,

but I want to know the science on proving that they didn't work. It's so true. I mean, I have no,

you can't. You can't prove a negative, right? Modern people are so skeptical of things

like this, but I want to know what if we're letting all kinds of health benefits go by not

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