So, you beautiful bastards. Welcome back to the Philip DeFranco show. You daily dive into the news,

and man, we got a big one today. Just lots and lots we got to talk about big and consequential and

weird. So you, you hit that like button. I'll hit you with the monkey, and let's jump into it.

This is a news show. Do you remember those monsters, Ruby, Frankie, and Jody Hildebrand?

Well, there's this whole other fucked-up side to that saga that we need to talk about.

And if you're completely unfamiliar, I'll link to the previous coverage, but to give you a very top-level recap, is that Ruby, who's best known for the Family Channel 8 passengers, was sentenced to 4 to 30 years in prison for child abuse earlier this year. With Jody, a life coach and Ruby's business partner, also receiving the same sentence.

And the two women had initially been arrested several months earlier after two of Frankie's

children were found trapped in horrible conditions in Hilda Brand's home.

And since then, a ton more details have come out about the case, but many of them so horrific

and despicable, I can't even talk about them on YouTube without this video getting suppressed.

Now, Ruby, for her part, she has repeatedly blamed Jody for her action, arguing that it was Jody who led her down this path of darkness and did so by isolating her from her family and friends.

Now, of course, that's likely just an attempt to shift accountability from her own actions.

But those allegations are super relevant to what we're talking about today. And that's because ProPublica and the Salt Lake Tribune recently released a wild deep dive into the totally unregulated

life coaching industry that allowed Jody Hildebrand and others like her to perpetrate this

kind of abuse often without justice. And the impacts here, they go way beyond just Hildebrand. We're

talking about a nationwide issue with ProPublica explaining. Life coaches aren't therapists and are mostly unregulated across the United States. They aren't required to be trained in ethical boundaries the way therapists are, and there's no universally accepted certification for those who work in the industry. You know, part of the reason there are no regulations is because there really isn't a set definition of what a life coach is. They can offer services to help people lose weight, organize their money or business, change how they parent, or improve various aspects

of their lives. Right, and the list just goes on and on and pretty much anyone can be a life coach.

Now one thing I want to make super clear here right off the bat is that in no way am I trying

to say that all life coaches are bad people or that life coaching is ineffective. Or there are plenty of life coaches who run good,

clean businesses, and there are many examples of people who have been helped by them. But every

industry has bad folks, and we're specifically talking about one that is totally unregulated,

one that relies on the business of people who are often already vulnerable. So there's just so much

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