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Welcome to PC outsiders. We're going to talk about some PC news. Some of it may be bad. Some of it may be good. What games we played and anything else? What's up, John?

Yeah, we have scary news, Michelle.

Scary news. Things are not good. I know, but like in the grand scheme of life, I don't think it's a big deal. We'll see. We'll get

into it. Of course, Steam Deck pricing and stuff. So let's talk about what we played first. One of the things I kind of like about PC gaming and Steam is I feel like we get more like demos and playtest. So I did check two out. Hell Forged was the first one I played. It is a survivors like, but it has a really cool, like it almost looks like Diablo 3, but it has a cool kind of style, like Dark Fantasy style. But what I like about it is it's all about the loot. It is a loot-driven sort of ARPG-like survivors. And you can, I think you can request and just get right in right now. It's got big talent trees and all this different gear you get a little bit like halls of torment where you have to figure out if you can request and just get right in right now. It's got big talent trees and all this different

gear you get. A little bit like Halls of Torment where you have to figure out if you can get

out with the gear, extract with the gear. But yeah, I don't know. It was kind of cool. What I liked about it is when you launch the game, it asks you, do you want to aim or do you want to be manual? and then there are, you know, there is a dash right away.

And then you get spells, but they're not active clickables on your bar.

I sent some feedback and I said, I want those to be, And then there are, you know, there is a dash right away. And then you get spells, but they're not active clickables on your bar.

I sent some feedback and I said, I want those to be active as well. Like, let me also click them when I want. The more they automate these types of games, the more I think they're missing out on them. But this one might have potential health. But isn't that the point of the whole survivor thing at this point or no? I think it's millions of mobs flooding at you

that just keep running at you. But doesn't what you're describing

become an ARPG and not a survivor no because in an arpg thousands of mobs don't flood at you unless you're moving generally like you can clear an area of a map in in survivors games you can't just stand there because there's a timer going and they're ticking at you and there's chest you're opening it's a totally different kind of thing. Yeah. Now, is this game called Hell Forge? Hell Forged. Go in our PC outsider's news area. Oh, there's also a Hell Forge. Okay. That is a retro Rogue Light Survivor that came out in March. No, this didn't come out yet. It's just a play test right now.

Okay, that's not good for either of them. I think it's fine. It's got a D. It's like Almond Joint has nuts, mouths. Don't know. I'm kind of thinking I'm going to play Hell Forge after looking at it. I would it. I'd play the one with the D. No, look at Health Forge. it looks great

how are the reviews

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