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Alright alright hey hey everybody welcome to a knock-on podcast. I'm sitting with a legend once again this is back to back.

Last week I was with Pete Sheppley pretty much an industry icon now I'm with Jay the out tech master.

How long has out tech been in the archery industry since 1987? Oh my gosh that's when we were parted yeah long time.

Seriously? Like who was the very first the nucleus? Well you know literally I was getting out of college and I don't know if I told you but I started my career at PSC.

I did not know that I was a sweet boy. Three years almost four years and then left and went to work at Eastern but I grew up as an archery brat.

You know it's all I know I don't know what I would do honestly but I didn't play with bows and arrows.

You know I just- When did you start at archery or at Eastern?

Gosh early 90s while they were just in the process a gentleman by the name of Joe Johnson bought I was with him in St. Louis with Earl Hoyt in Ann Hoyt when they bought the company.

We actually went from there to New York to tournament here at Watkins Glen in Oh yeah wow.

And Nationals outdoor nationals and there's actually a bar there where Joe actually shot an arrow in the arrow hit horn and it actually shattered across the bar but there's a bar there that's famous.

It's famous it's got like thousands and thousands of arrows that are shot over the bar up there where they used to hold the nationals a long time ago.

That is awesome. Pretty crazy but that is awesome.

It's a lot of fun to watch an archery brat John and so was PSC it was in Illinois that was it still they were just they were just moving from Illinois out to Arizona and Michelle Ragsdale Terry Ragsdale Toby all those guys just.

They're in the heyday icon I mean that's like gold beach during the Schwarzenegger era right it really is but I've just lived a blessed life.

And I mean I see what you've done with knock on in your career and how you've gone from a shooter and an innovator to what you've created with knock on Nation I mean my God it's amazing and now we're working together with PSC which is crazy I'm so excited and pumped.

It's cool it's funny how things like go full circle because the first bow that I ever had bought for me or bought for I didn't why I didn't buy for myself I was too young but my dad bought me an old I don't even know what it was it was back in like the I don't know trying to think what it was even called.

I mean I think I would have been an Allen or no it was a P.S.E.

I'm sure out what it was but I just remember I remember so many things vividly about people that were cool shooting like the PSC sites where the pins weren't just a solid steel pin like if it had remember those like those cross hair things.

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