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Hey everybody, welcome back to another Knock-On Podcast. I'm excited about this one because I've actually... this is going to be like a... well it'll be a two-part podcast although they're not going to be back to back.

But I told everyone who was watching some of the live feeds last week from Europe that I was going to have several cool things and cool announcements coming up this week.

And this will be one of the first of them. So my guest today is Mike Slingker, Good Buddy of Mine. You've heard him on the podcast before. We talked a little bit about it but since that podcast, Mike and I actually ended up...

just brainstorming on what we could do to work together again because we worked together for so long years ago. But Mike, welcome back, man. I appreciate it.

Thanks John. Thanks for having me. Appreciate it.

Yeah Mike, so Mike's been an archer for a long, long time. Great archer too and a great bowhunter. But you originally started Winner's Choice and did that years ago.

Obviously I was totally supported in all the hard work and technological advances you did for bowstrings back when you started that company.

And then you're like several of my buddies. You kind of go down one path and you have this really cool career that's going well for you. And actually I think I was...

I'm one of the same types. I was that way when I worked at Matthews and had a good job going for 10 years. And then next thing you know you just kind of venture down another path that you're passionate about and end up starting this whole new direction.

And for you that was the whole hex technology. And I'm trying to remember when did you... when did you first give me that? I'm trying to remember when it was.

It hasn't been around 2010 or 2011. We actually launched hex in 2010 officially. And you know it was one of those things that it was a new concept for most people at that point.

It is still for a lot of people, it's someone new. But you know as you say life takes you in different directions. And you know, God's Winner's Choice was a great ride. And you know I've been...

As you know shooting term in archery and but really bow hunting has been my passion since... I mean I can't remember how long you know I've been shooting above my whole life. And of course you know you are a huge part of Winner's Choice.

And that was one of the things that you know it just made sense to... since we worked so well together in Winner's Choice days. And you know you've used hex, you know not a lot of people maybe need it.

You know you may need it but you certainly have used hex for several years. And you know like I said I was happy to be able to bring you in and be able to brainstorm again together.

Because we worked pretty well together. You came up with some great ideas that we put to work at Winner's Choice. And you know I think we can do the same thing with Hacks. So yeah, excited, excited to be involved with you again.

You know what's funny about it is and we'll dive into the whole Hacks technology. I actually think it was before that Mike. I'm trying to remember when you and I...

You and I hunted together... We hunted together in Oregon.

We did actually you are right John. I actually you are right. I forgot about that. I think I've used it 10 years or better. It was before you started the company.

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