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Intelligent Design the Future

PBS, Darwin, and Dover: an Interview with Phillip Johnson

Intelligent Design the Future

Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture

Science, Philosophy, Astronomy, Society & Culture, Life Sciences

4993 Ratings

🗓️ 30 June 2023

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

On this classic episode of ID The Future from the vault, host Casey Luskin interviews Phillip Johnson, former UC Berkeley law professor and one of the founders of the modern intelligent design movement. Back in 2007, Johnson was one of the only intelligent design proponents interviewed for and included in PBS's long-running science series NOVA in an episode about the Dover case called "Judgment Day: Intelligent Design on Trial." Johnson weighs in with his thoughts about the ruling issued by Judge Jones, about the scientific status of intelligent design, his views on PBS's teaching guide about intelligent design, and the popular claim at the time that intelligent design would inject religion into the classroom. Johnson was the author of the 1993 bestseller Darwin on Trial, an inspiration to many scientists and scholars in the intelligent design research community. He was an advisor to Discovery Institute's Center for Science and Culture for many years. He died in 2019.

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0:00.0

Welcome to ID the Future, a This is Casey Luskin,

0:21.6

broadcasting from Seattle, Washington, and we have a very special guest on our show with us today.

0:27.0

Professor Philip Johnson, who anyone who is familiar with the Intel Design Movement, he needs no introduction.

0:33.5

Professor Johnson is a professor of law,

0:35.6

emeritus at Bolt Hall School of Law.

0:37.8

He got his undergraduate degree at Harvard

0:40.4

and his law degree from the University of Chicago was a Supreme Court clerk and is very well known in the Inteles Preside movement as really being one of the inspirations behind the movement for his works and his books on Darwinian evolution

0:55.0

showing that Darwinian evolution is not a theory that is beyond scientific

0:59.6

critique but is quite open to scientific critique. So Professor Johnson, it's a real honor to have you on our show with us today.

1:06.0

Thank you.

1:07.0

Nice to be with you, Casey.

1:08.4

Well, we have you on the phone from California right now, and we wanted to speak with you

1:12.1

Professor Johnson because you were

1:14.4

recently interviewed or within the last few months were interviewed by PBS and

1:18.8

Nova for their upcoming PBS Nova Judgment Day Intelligence Design documentary on coming PBS few ID proponents that ended up being interviewed for the documentary and I'd like to

1:35.2

talk to you about both the documentary and some of the publicity that PBS has

1:39.8

been doing for the documentary and also get your thoughts a little bit about the

1:44.4

kits miller versus Dover trial so maybe we could start with that I'd be curious for

1:49.8

our listeners to be able to hear what is your opinion of the Kitts Miller ruling overall?

1:55.0

Well, the judge decided to strike out for fame and he got it.

2:01.0

He became a hero to the scientific materialist world and the official scientific

2:06.5

organs and to publications like Time magazine that named him as one of the most significant

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