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Pauli Murray: Part 1

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4.8 • 644 Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2018

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

Today's episode is on Pauli Murray, the activist, lawyer, poet and priest who did so much with his life that it's going to take us two episodes to fit it all. In this first half we're covering the period from 1910 to 1965, including Pauli's time at university, and his work as a lawyer and activist fighting segregation and sexism in the USA. We'll be talking about everything from his ground-breaking theories on intersectionality to his cross-country adventures dressed as a boy-scout, and featuring cameos from Eleanor Roosevelt, James Baldwin, and Langston Hughes. Transcript available here Sources Listen to Part 2 here

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Queer's Fact, the podcast that brings you queer history from around the world and throughout time.

0:05.3

My name is Eli. I'm Alice. I'm Irene.

0:08.3

Today we're talking about the activist, lawyer, priest and poet Paulie Murray.

0:20.2

Before we say anything else, I wanted to just say up front that I'm going to be referring

0:25.2

to Polly by hear him pronouns.

0:27.5

Polly was assigned female at birth.

0:29.2

He never publicly transitioned and therefore was perceived as a woman for his entire life.

0:33.4

But it is nevertheless clear that he identified as a man, and he is quite clear on not liking

0:41.7

female titles and things like that being applied to him. So I felt that these pronouns were the

0:47.0

most respectful. She, her pronouns are the norm in like academic or journalistic work on

0:53.0

poorly though. So I feel like we have to talk about

0:55.9

like why that discrepancy exists and maybe why people have made the choices that they have.

1:01.1

But I feel like you need to know kind of like the full story of Pauly's life before we really

1:05.9

get into dissecting why people have dealt with his gender identity in a particular way. So we're

1:10.6

not going to have that discussion until the end.

1:13.9

Okay.

1:14.4

The end is a bit further away than it normally is as well, because this is going to be our first

1:19.2

two-part episode.

1:20.6

Paulie essentially just did way too much in his life to cover in one of our like normal

1:24.3

length episodes.

1:25.0

So instead of gutting his biography, we're going to do the first half today on April

1:30.8

the 15th and we're going to finish it in our next episode on May 1st.

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