This is like a Dick Kenzie entail. The aunt said to me during the two weeks, if you go back to live with your mom and your little brother, everybody to food you take will be a bite of food. Your brother won't get. So if you're going to be a real little man, you're going to write your mom until you really want to stay here. And I bought it and I wrote the letters and I stayed with these people that I didn't love. Elvis Sinatra, Streisand, LFHG, Ray Charles, Willie Nelson, Tony Bennett, Bowie, Carpenter's obviously Diana Ross, Kermit. Quite a resume of people singing your songs and obviously thousands more. That's pretty cool. Pretty cool, man. I mean, as a writer to writer, I had no idea you'd be this nice. I adore you. Tall Hamilton Williams. September 19th, 1940. Yep, exactly. Let me find this card. I wrote this card out. Sorry, this is really good. You might appreciate it. Do you like astrology? Do you know what? I know that I'm a Virgo, I know that I have my moons and ares and I have Gemini rising, but no, I don't pay any attention. Okay, well check this out. So the idea is that there's this sort of mutable characteristics for every birthday. So I just typed in your birthday, not even your birth year, just your birthday, September 19th. So listen what it said. Excel's in the arts, singing, painting, or sculpting. They need to say inspired and they might become profits for a higher, or and they might become profits for a higher cause. Protectors of the humankind or the animal kingdom, doctors and healers of all kinds. They do things to flow to become their best

in their field of expertise. For their waters must be clean so they can stay aware of their talents. Oh, yes. I thought it was like, that took a while, to get those clean waters, you know. I believe in everything. I mean, I believe in everything. I believe that there's a dark side to this quote, okay, go ahead. Because I'm curious if this, Because that feels right to me as a fan of your work.

Thank you.

The first part.

Thank you.

But let's, the second part, this is the dark side of them, okay? Good. Detached and lonely. They easily fall into psychosomatic problems when they are not satisfied. Feeling powerless over issues that are their own responsibility, they become, they can become a burden for those close to

them and turn to dishonesty or substance abuse when they are lost. And I have a black belt and a couple of those things. I mean, it's like, you know, so that's your birthday. Yeah. Well, it's interesting because yeah, and you know, I joke that I spent my life writing an outch mommy song.

I'm the master of the Code of Pinn and Anthos.

So it's like, but it's... And I joke that I spent my life writing an outch mommy song. It's the master of the code of pen and anthem.

So it's like, but it's, it's,

what a time. What a time. The master of the code. You know, it's picked me up and loved me, it's the essence of it. When I was about nine years old, they gave me shots to make me grow. And the shots did not make me grow. They actually kind of closed off the bones.

Well, I was really, I could run under coffee tables.

I whistle a little two brothers that are six footers

and me in the middle of the...

Do they have any sense of why? No, but they went to a doctor and Albuquerque in New Mexico. He said, I can make this boy grow. Do you remember that? And I do, I do. And I was probably eight or nine. And he gave me male hormone, which kick me into early puberty Which what that basically does is it also begins to close off the bones and all and of course I immediately had a totally different relationship with the world around me We I had no interest in my toy chest But my aunt in his chest was something that I found fascinating and they saw this and they and they stopped it But it screwed up my body clock. So did also screw you up mentally because you've got from innocence to not innocence to take away the harm. Now they take away the hunger that I do not understand. Okay, right. A hunger, a knee, an urge that I have not identified yet, but I am feeling the beginnings of. And then they, interrupted the cycle, whatever like that, I was like maybe 22 by the time. I mean, so by the time I actually hit puberty. So I mean, this all relates to the year opening in Selvo. Yeah. Is that all of us, so I'm in high school with the body of a 12-year-old.

But the mind is racing ahead. The mind is racing ahead. And out of that, all of a sudden,

I'm like in my early 20s, I want to be in it. My dad died in a car wreck drunk when I was 13.

So alcoholism has been a huge part of the Williams family. Both my brothers died sober. I'm sober 34 years. And I'm at a place in my life where I can see. I can identify the different areas of the rollercoaster. Okay. And when you, you know, the information you discovered throwing out the date of my birth is accurate to a point of being magical. So I need to start paying a little more attention to my birth signs and that moon in areas, I think. So one brother was a NASA scientist, is that accurate? Yes. And worked on Mercury and Apollo projects. Yeah, that's pretty cool. My brother Jack, big men of eight years older than me. me. So we weren't, you know, it was a sweet, sweet man. Love music, love me, love me getting the attention I did eventually. And another brother wrote, Drift Away, right? Mental Williams. What a great song. Great. You know what I used to cover that song with. Did you really? Oh yeah, what a great song. It's a fantastic song. He passed away in 2016. Both my brothers quit drinking, but they could not quit smoking. The one thing I did that they didn't do is I quit smoking. It's one of my sort of sideline hobbies, but I'm sort of fascinated by genetic lines. Like what we get from our ancestors, yeah. And in your case, if you just look at the three brothers here, were there other siblings? Pardon? Were there other siblings in your family? The past way at birth, there was a sister. Okay. But just three boys, I was the middle boy. All three of us drank. I mean, we were born addicts. We were born addicts. Right. But setting the aside, I'm not being clipped about it, but it's interesting that all three did something in the world. You know what I mean? There's something there that must have come from up the family tree. Right? That's just my belief. Yeah. Well, you know, it's like I was gifted with, you know, with the genetic propensity towards, you know, addiction and alcoholism. And then I did a little work on it on my own. And you know, I mean, I was, how old were you in the first drink you ever had? Probably five or six. Wow, I mean, we would get a little glass of beer, sometimes watered down just a little bit at the family picnics. And I mean, I would go around at like 10, 11, 12, whatever. And if there was a little something left over from the adults and everything would always just chase it. Do you see that as their first signs that there was gonna be coming issue? Later is that just typical kid stuff? Yeah, I think that's typical stuff. Okay, I'm just Yeah, I think that I really hit my stride in my 30s. Late 20s, in the 60s, cocaine was not addictive. It turns out I am. But all the news was there was this wonderful drug and it's yeah, and it's not addictive

But it was which is absolute bullshit because it's Remember there used to be like Beretta episodes and you'd be like cooks not addictive I remember for some reason I remember that well I was I were talking about it about an episode that I wrote I wrote that episode okay Why watch that? I remember that I did this and I show it with with Robert Blake and I said, I love your show, I love the duties,

well done right one.

And then I did, so I did, night show with Robert Blake and I said, I love your show, I love D'Rudy,

so hold on right one. And then I did, so I did, I wrote over the orphan Annie Blues and where I played a guy that has an old record store that's selling drugs because he has a sister in a wheelchair. A coke stand. Yeah, exactly. And I think I have the line about it. There's somebody dies from cocaine. is not even addictive.

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