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Paul Toboni Joins Nats Chat to Talk Gore Trade & More

Nats Chat

Mark Zuckerman & Al Galdi

Sports, Baseball

4.9573 Ratings

🗓️ 24 January 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Just one day after making his first big move as Nationals President of Baseball Operations, Paul Toboni joins the podcast for a wide ranging conversation. Mark & Al begin by asking him about trading MacKenzie Gore to Texas in exchange for five prospects. The discussion then touches upon Free Agency, 1B, building a bullpen, CJ Abrams' future, working with ownership, and more. Stay tuned after the 25 minute interview to hear the hosts give their thoughts on the Gore deal and other observations from interviewing Toboni. (01:00) Gore traded to Texas (08:00) Competitive timeline (14:30) Approach in Free Agency (15:20) 1B Situation (18:35) CJ Abrams' future (20:00) Bullpen construction (22:40) Did you run the Gore trade past ownership? (25:30) Extended post interview reaction from Al & Mark

Transcript

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0:00.0

Walters is back for another season as the official bar of the Natschat podcast.

0:05.7

Walters is the best spot to go before and after home games located at the southeast corner

0:11.4

of Capitol and N Streets, right across the street from the ballpark.

0:18.9

And welcome to a very special edition of Natchchat, along with Washington Nationals Insider Mark Zuckerman of Massinsports.com.

0:25.9

I'm Al-Galdi host of the Al-Galdi podcast.

0:28.4

We are recording this on Friday afternoon, January 23rd.

0:31.8

The day before Snowmageddon, we hope everyone is warm and safe.

0:35.8

It is hard to believe, but the first workout for Nats pitchers and

0:38.7

catchers at 2006 Nats spring training is just a few weeks away, February 11, but not among the

0:44.8

pitchers at Nats camp will be starting pitcher McKenzie Gore. The Nats on Thursday evening

0:49.3

announcing having traded Gore to the Texas Rangers for five prospects in a major trade.

0:54.6

The five prospects now account for five of the Nats' top 24 prospects for M.O.B pipeline,

1:00.1

including shortstop Gavin Fien as the Nats number five prospect.

1:04.2

And we are very pleased to welcome to the podcast, the architect of this trade.

1:08.9

Nats president of baseball operations. Paul Toboni, Paul,

1:12.1

it is great to have you on. We appreciate your time very much. How are you? Doing well,

1:16.1

guys. Appreciate you having me on. Yeah, appreciate you coming on. So lucky timing on our end to get you here

1:21.3

the day after the big trade. Just from a general perspective, you know, taking over the reins of

1:26.6

Nats baseball ops and pulling the trigger on a move like this, what was that process like for you?

1:32.2

And how do you know when it is time to pull the trigger on such a trade?

1:36.2

Yeah, all great questions. And I'm not sure I have perfect responses to any of them.

1:39.8

But what I'll say is, I think, given my history, like coming from the Red Sox and overseeing the draft

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