Okay, you ready to start this show!

Your host to the evening is a really funny dude.

I forgot his last name, but I've seen him before it.

He's really funny.

Give it up from Mike.

Coming to you live on tape from the penthouse of a partially completed commercial highrise and glamorous Hollywood adjacent California

from the studios of Sirius XM West

boasting an obstructed view of one of LA's leading cement factories.

This is the Tully show.

I am your host, Mike Tully.

Joining me today, an astrophysicist

at Ohio State University.

He hosts the Ask A Space Man

Podcast and Space Radio and is the author of the new book your place in the

universe. Hello and welcome Paul M. Sutter.

Hey, how's it going?

Very well, thank you for coming by here.

Oh, thanks for having me in this very partially completed building.

Yeah, it still got that new building smell. Yeah, I can smell it all over. I have a little headache. Yeah, that's probably the the cancerous materials. Yeah, yeah, there's all the signs everywhere. They're warning me and now I'm feeling it.

Mm-hmm. Yeah. There's a bunch of, I don't know if they do this in Ohio. We have a thing here.

You can just sort of see the half-baked government stuff at work where you walk into places of

business and they just have a sign that says,

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