Yeah, so this is actually, like, I followed your content from way back when you first started.

And for me, like, I'm sort of like the steroid hormone guy on the internet.

And the only thing I noticed that I was like critical of and I had made, I think a video a few years ago about it is you would constantly show your blood work and I would

consistently see this like female level SHBG and I was like I would see you try and like rationalize

it at the time and then I would see other carnivore guys who followed were inspired by what you

were doing try and justify their like, nuke free testosterone levels

and be like, oh, it's just like, you know, I have higher sensitivity to it. It's just like the

endrogen receptors don't need that much. And I'm just like, there's got to be like something

fucking off here. And then eventually you started incorporating honey and fruits. And now everything's

kind of like normalized and you know optimized presumably

presumably so like for you like I don't know if your book also had like the principles of no carbs

in it but was that like a really hard thing to walk back from because you were pretty gung-ho on it

for a while and like I commend you for being not like the zealots who are like,

nope, fuck it, keto only.

Like, this is what you got to do.

Like you walked that back and, you know, said you were wrong and this is what you think now.

And I thought that was great.

So I was just wondering like what that process was like.

I took some heat, man. I took some heat.

Probably rightly so. I mean, but this is what it's about for me. Like this is the way it should be.

Like we're learning. I'm not going to get everything right. I've always said that.

Like who says I'm going to get everything right? Maybe I got something right. Maybe I didn't get anything right. But it's just interesting to think about it and ask

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