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Spiegel & Holmes Show

Paul Pabst: National media doesn't think Bears' winning is sustainable

Spiegel & Holmes Show

Audacy

Sports

4.2652 Ratings

🗓️ 24 December 2025

⏱️ 9 minutes

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Summary

Matt Spiegel and Laurence Holmes bring you Chicago sports talk with great opinions, guests and fun. Join Spiegel and Holmes as they discuss the Bears, Blackhawks, Bulls, Cubs and White Sox and delve into the biggest sports storylines of the day. Recurring guests include former Bears coach Dave Wannstedt, former Bears center Olin Kreutz, Cubs manager Craig Counsell, Cubs second baseman Nico Hoerner and MLB Network personality Jon Morosi. Catch the show live Monday through Friday from 2 p.m. to 6 p.m. CT on 104.3 The Score, the exclusive audio home of the Cubs and the Bulls, or on the Audacy app.

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0:00.0

Clay Harbor is sitting in for Speaks today.

0:02.5

He's going to be here all show.

0:04.0

We're going to have a good time.

0:05.8

And we're having a good time with our guy, Pauley, right now,

0:07.8

who joins us on the Circa Resort and Casino hotline, circle las Vegas.com.

0:13.3

Pauli, I know you heard our last segment.

0:15.3

We were talking about the national narratives that surround Caleb.

0:20.1

You're around this because you hear and talk to you a bunch of

0:23.6

people on the national stage. How have you seen it evolve? It's interesting. You can do an hour on

0:29.8

this because I think a lot of people outside of Chicago and outside of yourselves and us don't watch

0:34.8

entire Bears games. They watch highlights and low lights, and they make their decisions based off those.

0:39.3

And Caleb Williams, to be candid, is a polarizing national figure.

0:42.6

And a lot of people hitched their wagon to reaction off him.

0:45.9

I think it was 11 weeks ago, Colin Coward said that Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams would not work out.

0:51.5

When you make a declarative statement like that, you can't come back on it

0:54.7

seven weeks later when they're flirting with the number one seed in the playoffs. So I think he's a

0:59.5

polarizing guy that people use for agendas as much as analyzing his play. Paul, the 49ers have gone

1:05.7

19 possessions without punting. 19. How does the Bears defense come up with the scheme to stop these guys? You know, that Monday night game, usually I watch the Monday game very casually. And when I saw that 49ers offense, I was like, oh, man, can we get a break? I would say the good news for the Bears is they got two extra days off and compared to the 49ers. And rarely do teams play that well a couple games in a row. Christian McCaffrey is not what he used to be. Kittal's still good. Purdy look fantastic. And the one thing, and I know you want the number one seed or you want to win the North, but at the very least, this is not for a playoff spot. So, Pauley, walk me through your watching experience of Saturday night's game.

1:45.9

Ah.

1:47.0

Okay, so I'm watching the game, and when the bad snap happened, it was a real gut shot, you know, that trick play.

1:53.8

And I think it was for everybody, because the bears were just cruising.

1:56.0

I think it was like 10 plays, 70 yards.

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