Hi, it's Diane, on my mind, by dynamics in poll after poll. Voters around the country say their number one issue is the economy.

That should be good news for President Biden.

The job market is strong, inflation is down, and the stock market is up.

And yet, some voters say they trust Donald Trump more than Joe Biden as an economic leader.

Yeah, there's a bunch of things that have conspired to perpetuate the narrative of a bad economy

even as the reality is, like I said, it's kind of a miracle.

Paul is a New York Times columnist and a no-bell laureate in economics.

You join me Thursday morning to help explain exactly how healthy our economy is under Biden and was under Trump

and whether either man should actually get credit for it.

Paul in broad brush strokes, how do you think President Biden has handled our economy thus far.

I think it's a basically a very good performance.

I mean, he took a bit of a gamble by spending a lot of money early on,

which was a kind of insurance against the possibility that we might get stuck in a kind of

low-level trap after the pandemic, but did run some risk of entrenching some inflation in the economy, but it paid off. The inflation went away. We never

suffered mass economic distress. We have very full employment. So, so you know where we are right now is actually an

excellent place economically and we we weathered a very severe storm with

minimal harm.

Tell me how you and other economists measure how well the economy is doing.

Yeah, so I mean, there's no one number.

We'll tell it.

There's always a story.

So in some ways, the most important question

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