Hey deserving listeners, we have a very special guest on the podcast today, Paul Gil Martin,

he's from the Mental Illness Happy Hour podcast. I've been listening to his podcast for years

back in the day when I think there were probably a handful of

podcasts worth listening to in the psychology arena.

Someone's starting to say that that's still sort of the case, but I've been listening to Paul for years and years and I've always wanted to have him on the podcast. So welcome to the podcast Paul.

Well, thanks, Kirk, and I'm super flattered. You know anytime somebody who's a mental health

professional listens to the podcast and enjoys it I'm always just just really flattered and honestly kind of surprised I guess maybe that's just my low self-esteem, but it also proves to me that there is a therapist who is really

passionate about what they do,

the fact that on their off hours,

they're listening to more stuff about psychology.

I mean, that just amazes me.

So thank you.

Has any therapist ever said that you're a good therapist?

Because I'll say that. I'll be with it. If you haven't heard that, I'll say.

You have, I'm a trainer of therapists. I'm an an educator, a therapist, supervisor for 20 plus years and

it's my job to know when people have a good intuition regarding what to say, how to be attuned, when to amplify things, when to

slow things down, when to reassure, when to not reassure. I just think you have an excellent instinct for the, you know,

foundational skills of being a therapist. Well, thank you. That means a lot to me.

Do other therapists tell you that they say you know you would make a good

therapist have you ever considered becoming a therapist and I always say you know I'm comfortable being the cheerleader for you guys you guys are their football team

I'm the cheerleaders I'm the cheerleader I'm the one encouraging them to go see you guys in the trenches doing the real work, having the real responsibility

day in and day out to the clients.

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