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Paul Gillingham on Why Mexico Stays Together

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🗓️ 25 March 2026

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Tyler calls Paul Gillingham's new book, Mexico: A 500-Year History, the single best introduction to the country's past—and one of the best nonfiction books of 2026. Paul brings both an outsider's eye and ground-level knowledge to Mexican history, having grown up in Cork — a place he'd argue gave him an instinctive feel for fierce local autonomy and land hunger —earning his doctorate on the Mexican Revolution under Alan Knight at Oxford, and doing his fieldwork in the pueblos of Guerrero.

He and Tyler range across five centuries of Mexican history, from why Mexico held together after independence when every other post-colonial superstate collapsed, to why Yucatán is now one of the safest places on earth, what two leaders from Oaxaca tell us about Mexican politics, how Mexico avoided the military coups that plagued the rest of Latin America, what Cárdenas's land reform actually achieved versus what it promised, whether the ejido system held Mexico back, why Mexico worried too much about land and not enough about human capital, how Mexico's fertility rate fell below America's, why Guerrero has been violent for two centuries, why the new judicial reforms are a disaster, where to find the best food in Mexico and Manhattan, what a cache of illicit Mexican silver sitting on a ship in the English Channel has to do with his next book, and more.

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Recorded February 27th, 2026.

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Timestamps:

00:00:00 - Intro

00:01:30 - Post-Independence Mexico

00:05:18 - Peace in Yucatán

00:6:54 - Quintana Roo

00:08:24 - Mexican Infrastructure

00:10:26 - Oaxaca

00:13:54 - Great Food Outside Cities

00:16:39 - Leaders from Coahuila

00:17:50 - Military Rule and Civil War in Mexico

00:21:47 - The Cárdenas Regime

00:24:03 - The Ejido System

00:25:49 - Human Capital

00:40:59 - Doing Mexican History as a Brit

00:42:43 - Guerrero

00:48:37 - Michoacán Violence

00:50:44 - Monterrey

00:52:40 - Judicial Reforms

00:54:44 - The Best Mexican Film, Music, and Novel

00:59:42 - The Best Trip Around Mexico

01:04:05 - Outro

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helpful links, visit Conversationswithtyler.com. Hello, everyone, and welcome back to

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Conversations with Tyler. Today I'm chatting with Paul Gillingham. He has a new book out,

1:13.0

Mexico, a 500-year history.

1:19.6

It is, in my view, the single best introduction to the history of Mexico and will be one of the best non-fiction books of this year, 26. Paul, welcome. Thank you very much for those

1:25.6

kind words, and it's a privilege to be here. Thanks for the

1:28.7

invitation. Now, after independence in 1821, why did not the rest of Mexico fragment the way Central

1:37.4

America did a few years later where it splits off from the Mexican Empire? Like what determines the line,

1:43.6

what sticks together with Mexico and what does not? That's a very good question because it's off from the Mexican Empire. Like, what determines the line, what sticks together with Mexico

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and what does not? That's a very good question, because it's one of the things that really makes

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