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Alive with Steve Burns

Paul Ford Eases Steve's Real Panic About Artificial Intelligence

Alive with Steve Burns

Lemonada Media

Society & Culture

5.0588 Ratings

🗓️ 29 October 2025

⏱️ 79 minutes

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Summary

Steve checks in with his tech whiz friend, Paul Ford, to share his hopes and concerns about artificial intelligence.   Paul Ford is the co-founder of Aboard, an AI startup. Previously, he was an advisor to the White House Office of Digital Strategy during the Obama Administration. He has written about technology at leading publications from The New Yorker and The New York Times Magazine to MIT Technology Review.   Right now, you can try ZipRecruiter FOR FREE at ziprecruiter.com/alive.   Get 15% off OneSkin with the code ALIVE at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod #sponsored   Head to ComicConTheCruise.com/ALIVE to learn more and book your cabin — and don’t forget to use code ALIVE for $250 off per cabin on new reservations! You can follow Steve Burns @steveburnsalive on Instagram. Watch full episodes of Alive on YouTube. Stay up to date with Lemonada on Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram at @LemonadaMedia.    If you haven’t yet, now is a great time to subscribe to Lemonada Premium. You’ll get ad-free episodes and bonus content from Steve. Just hit the 'subscribe' button on Apple Podcasts, or, for all other podcast apps head to lemonadapremium.com to subscribe.    Click this link for a list of current sponsors and discount codes for this show and all Lemonada shows: lemonadamedia.com/sponsors See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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0:00.0

Lemonada

0:02.0

Alive

0:04.0

Alive

0:06.0

Come on

0:10.0

it's uh

0:14.0

with Steve Burns

0:17.0

Hey, there you are.

0:20.0

Come on in. It's good to see you.

0:23.6

I have a question for you.

0:26.6

Do you understand large language models and recursive learning?

0:41.3

Yeah, okay, me neither. like at all, right? I, I, every time with my laptop these days or look at my phone, I'm like, oh, cool, here's

0:47.3

an object that is already a gazillion times smarter than me and is becoming a

0:51.3

bachillion times smarter by the nanosecond.

0:53.3

And I like, I like literally

0:55.5

struggle with Google Docs.

0:59.4

For real.

1:00.9

I'm making tea. Do you want tea?

1:05.3

We live

1:06.5

in a freaky, freaky time

1:08.4

where the machines

1:10.5

aren't just catching up anymore, they are now sprinting ahead at an exponential pace.

1:19.3

I'm talking, of course, about AI.

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