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Paul Bloom on Empathy

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🗓️ 27 February 2017

⏱️ 68 minutes

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Summary

Psychologist Paul Bloom of Yale University talks about his book Against Empathy with EconTalk host Russ Roberts. Bloom argues that empathy--the ability to feel the emotions of others--is a bad guide to charitable giving and public policy. Bloom argues that reason combined with compassion is a better and more effective guide to making the world a better place.

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Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.

0:09.3

I'm your host, Russ Roberts of Stanford University's Hoover Institution.

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0:34.4

Today is February 6th, 2017, and my guest is psychologist and author Paul Bloom, the

0:39.6

Brooks and Suzanne Reagan, professor of psychology at Yale University.

0:44.0

His latest book has the provocative title against empathy, the case for rational compassion,

0:49.6

and he really is against it.

0:51.0

Paul, welcome to econtalk.

0:52.0

Hey, thanks for having me.

0:54.3

Now as you point out many times in the book, empathy is used in a wide variety of ways.

1:00.7

So when you say you're against empathy, which is already bad enough, but you want to clarify

1:04.4

more precisely what you mean in the book, so do that here.

1:07.2

Tell us what you mean by empathy in particular.

1:09.9

Yeah, it's kind of a terrible way to start any conversation, but I think for this, I have

1:14.5

to begin by defining my terms.

1:16.9

People use the term empathy in every imaginable way.

1:20.6

Some people use the term empathy to mean just everything good, everything kind, moral,

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