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And it's John Gibbons with a cup of tea show.

I'm delighted to be joined in the studio by your friend of mine,

Paul O'Man, who's from cop-out,

and also occasional contributor to the

amp field rap as well and of course a huge liberal support.

So Paul thanks so much for coming in to have a chat.

absolute pleasure John always great to be here and seeing your

smiling face does out make me day.

But I don't want an intro for me.

Lovely. Normally I'm the one saying the nice things but there we go I want to talk to

about the World Cup that's obviously on the horizon starts in the next few days

it's a contentious one isn't it And for the whole host of reasons and occasionally they all sort of

get jumbled up together and occasionally we debate them sort of individually.

Obviously you're here to talk from the point of view of cop-outs and so we're here primarily

to talk about you know I would guess I mean you can talk about what you want for but

the idea of you know how welcome people you know

or aren't you know I'm sort of in that in that part of the world and and it's also something that obviously we've had a taste of

at a taste of because it was the venue for the Liverpool. The Club World Cup

yeah so how sort of the last few years been for you, Paul, in terms of because I know you've

had lots of conversations with people around when that happened.

And I know things, you had some assurances at the time on how welcome you be to sort

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